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18. I understand the frustration, but he's admitting his mistake and admitting he'd been stubborn

Mon Oct 2, 2017, 04:14 PM

Oct 2017

If we're all "FU" when people admit their mistakes, they're not going to be open about their change of heart. And if they're not open about their change of heart, other people won't see their change of heart and listen and learn from it.

It's hella annoying that horrible things only bother some people when tragedy strikes them personally, but it's also human nature, and I think we should be extra welcoming when people out and out admit that they had been stubborn in the past. Otherwise we won't make any progress at all.

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I cannot express how wrong I was: Country guitarist changes mind on gun control after Vegas [View all] hexola Oct 2017 OP

Too bad it takes a direct attack for so many people to feel empathy. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #1

Very strange. It's only a problem if it effects ME directly. All those other enough Oct 2017 #3

Have the Republicans ever been anything other? Amimnoch Oct 2017 #38

I don't care. ananda Oct 2017 #49

Me either...Better late than never. n/t whathehell Oct 2017 #51

Agreed. Give me a couple of days to welcome these new, needed people into the gunsafety fold. TrollBuster9090 Oct 2017 #64

Agreed. Better late than never and together we can defeat the never-evers when the never-evers politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2017 #80

Republican 101. paleotn Oct 2017 #69

The poor guy will get flamed now. RandySF Oct 2017 #2

From both sides... sarisataka Oct 2017 #11

Which seems dumb to me..Better late than never, whathehell Oct 2017 #50

Just look inside this thread. Thegonagle Oct 2017 #84

20 six year olds gunned down didn't do it for him Beaverhausen Oct 2017 #4

Damn right. Aristus Oct 2017 #7

Actually it was his own ass being there that changed his mind lunatica Oct 2017 #16

So they can't simply come around to agreeing with you Dreamer Tatum Oct 2017 #22

Yep Pretty much Lazy Daisy Oct 2017 #46

You can be naive if you like lunatica Oct 2017 #47

On non-leathal disagreements? I agree with you.... paleotn Oct 2017 #70

Exactly, ONLY when something interferes directly with them do they care. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #26

I took it to mean LoveMyCali Oct 2017 #61

Yes that how I think he means it FakeNoose Oct 2017 #94

Yes, the way cancer changes one's mind about healthcare Phentex Oct 2017 #93

+1000 smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #44

Exactly. Fuck him. Sadly, it took white country music fans dying for him to get this adigal Oct 2017 #52

I see rationalization in his thinking jmowreader Oct 2017 #54

He saw firsthand that what he'd been told would stop a mass shooting did not stop it. LisaM Oct 2017 #60

Yes LoveMyCali Oct 2017 #63

Yep. My thoughts exactly. What an asshole. Squinch Oct 2017 #14

Don't you know? That was a false flag op... Xolodno Oct 2017 #24

EXACTLY! SammyWinstonJack Oct 2017 #36

Thank you n/t sarge43 Oct 2017 #71

This! 1000X! AwakeAtLast Oct 2017 #81

the russian & republican troll bots will now ... Achilleaze Oct 2017 #5

Look at what else he said (emphasis added): tblue37 Oct 2017 #6

Bingo, it's got to hit them personally right between the eyes CanonRay Oct 2017 #8

Well, thank goodness there is some chance for enlightenment, but Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2017 #10

I would've kept that part to myself uponit7771 Oct 2017 #15

I understand the frustration, but he's admitting his mistake and admitting he'd been stubborn renate Oct 2017 #18

Thank you. femmedem Oct 2017 #35

Yes.... if it's not for "new allies" we'll never get this done. groundloop Oct 2017 #58

I don't see any other way that works, either. halobeam Oct 2017 #62

"Sorry, You Must Stand On A Pile Of Bodies THIS HIGH To Recognize Reality" hatrack Oct 2017 #9

I hope he stands strong on this and maybe he can make a difference. Dem_4_Life Oct 2017 #12

Most of the replies here are exactly why nothing will ever get done Dreamer Tatum Oct 2017 #13

I totally agree renate Oct 2017 #19

It's our new winning strategy sarisataka Oct 2017 #20

I was just pointing out that this person had absolutely no empathy for the victims... Beaverhausen Oct 2017 #25

And I'm saying who the hell cares? Dreamer Tatum Oct 2017 #27

I see your point Beaverhausen Oct 2017 #30

I think its the point that no matter that he/his crew were armed- it didn't make a bit of difference jmg257 Oct 2017 #32

Good guy with a gun propaganda Bradical79 Oct 2017 #39

Yep - "hey - I've got mine" vs "better if no one had em". n/t jmg257 Oct 2017 #41

it's possible some people don't see things the same way as others do Dreamer Tatum Oct 2017 #33

no Skittles Oct 2017 #75

agreed OKNancy Oct 2017 #40

Right. Those of us who are furious that a bunch of dead 6 year olds didn't change anything Squinch Oct 2017 #55

Here is a little perspective for you Dreamer Tatum Oct 2017 #66

Apparently you do care, given that you said above that our anger is a cause of gun violence. Squinch Oct 2017 #78

And... Orrex Oct 2017 #56

Why should these right-wingers be coddled? LuvLoogie Oct 2017 #72

That's nice and all Dreamer Tatum Oct 2017 #73

Dude, I 'm talking about the hell he catches on the road, LuvLoogie Oct 2017 #76

Replies on DU have nothing to do with why nothing will get done JI7 Oct 2017 #77

Yes melman Oct 2017 #79

27% is not 'most.' LanternWaste Oct 2017 #95

The whole point is to change minds... CanSocDem Oct 2017 #17

Gun control as a branding name for curbing gun violence has been a failure moda253 Oct 2017 #21

it would be tough for a lot of folks to defend the right to own 30 ARs 7962 Oct 2017 #91

Maybe He Could Give Us a Little Insight into How to Change Minds Leith Oct 2017 #23

What is it with these people matt819 Oct 2017 #28

His gun-humping buddies will get to him, he'll be oiling his guns by Thursday. Hoyt Oct 2017 #29

I'm not as evolved as most. Experiences change me. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #31

Well Said, LW! ProfessorGAC Oct 2017 #88

this needs to be on the front page of every newspaper tomorrow morning gopiscrap Oct 2017 #34

Better a tarnished friend than a shiny enemy world wide wally Oct 2017 #37

good point. LakeArenal Oct 2017 #43

Ole Josh Abbott will probably write a song about it... LakeArenal Oct 2017 #42

He admits he was wrong; enough for me. "My biggest regret is that I stubbornly didnt realize Justice Oct 2017 #45

Wait until the red states have their health care taken away from them and start going after smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #48

I read the article. former9thward Oct 2017 #53

Guns as protection. Ha. Native Oct 2017 #57

Fuck you, Keeter. So it was just an unpreventable tragedy when nutcases were shooting KIDS... TrollBuster9090 Oct 2017 #59

Hear, hear!! AllyCat Oct 2017 #68

Yeah, cause a classroom of dead 6 year olds wasn't quite enough. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #65

Of course they are useless. More guns don't help. AllyCat Oct 2017 #67

If he changes some other country fans' minds... oxbow Oct 2017 #74

We need gun control, but the guns used by the white terrorist are already illegal IronLionZion Oct 2017 #82

Las Vegas shooter legally purchased weapons and passed all background checks oberliner Oct 2017 #83

It's so frustrating and disappointing. Sounds like he used bump fire stock IronLionZion Oct 2017 #85

some info Mosby Oct 2017 #87

Welcome back to sanity, Mr. Keeter. DinahMoeHum Oct 2017 #86

Those thousands of other deaths just didn't make the grade. Orsino Oct 2017 #89

We should encourage more of this, regardless of their past or reasons IronLionZion Oct 2017 #90

I don't care what it took to change his mind. He's on our side now. klook Oct 2017 #92