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Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
57. Who is fondly memorializing him??
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 08:33 PM
Oct 2017

I’m a white guy, from the south, that happens to own firearms, that happens to love real country music...frankly Jason Aldean doesn’t qualify...but I’m a dyed in the wool Democrat and was raised to be the liberal I am today. My grandparents, born in 1901 and 1912 respectively, had two pictures on their walls of political figures: FDR and MLK. FDR, because granddaddy was a sharecropper prior and during the depression. My granny cooked Sunday dinners for our family everyone they worked with and their families...our table was open to all walks of life, even when they insisted on eating outside, granny would scold them and make them sit down at our dinner table. They worked the land like we did, they were our equals, they would have a place at our table. Through FDR’s programs, granddaddy was able to transition from sharecropping to owning his own country store. He owned a total of three in his working life. The thing that separated him from others in our TN town at the time, late 40’s to mid 60’s, his store wasn’t segregated. He did that by choice and by his own personal beliefs. The local KKK showed up one night burning torches at granddaddy’s store demanding he stop serving blacks...I wasn’t there and I can’t say that it’s anything more than family legend, but granddaddy walked out on the porch, because they lived in quarters within the store, with a double barreled shotgun and called every one of the assholes out by name and shamed them into leaving his property. During the civil rights era, they supported the movement of MLK in their rural area, in no small part because their best friends Dave and Mattie, were black...it wasn’t on a grand scale but they did do their part in their part of the world. When MLK was assassinated, my grandparents hung his photo as a reminder of the ongoing struggle. They were poor country people but they knew and recognized the struggle for equal rights.

My grandparents either watched or listed to the Grand Ole Opry every Saturday night...I grew up with classic country as a part of me...likewise, I spent many hours with Mr Dave and Mrs Mattie..From Mr Dave, I learned the blues: Howlin’ Wolf, Muddy Waters, Robert Johnson, Aurthur Crudup, Son House, Blind Lemon Jefferson....and on and on...Mrs Mattie would play Motown and Staxx...

They’re both gone now, as are my grandparents. I know my upbringing is different than most in the South but to paint a broad brush and suggest “this is a white guy who liked country music and guns” and that’s why x..y...z..that’s insulting.

This guy was a reprehensible asshole...if he were a POC or a POC who happened to be Muslim, yeah...that would be blown far and wide by the media to further demonize those groups.

If my post is continuing the white privilege promotion, I’ll gladly delete it...that is surely not my intention. My point in my long ass rant is to show not all white, country music loving, gun owners are the same...


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I think they're rather trying to draw on the stark difference that he was perfectly "normal" and JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #1
No...that's not what the intent is...is the constrast of how a non-white is depicted HipChick Oct 2017 #2
This "Headline" Makes Us Sick and Is.... LovingA2andMI Oct 2017 #33
yup trump said bdamomma Oct 2017 #45
Right on bdamomma iluvtennis Oct 2017 #55
Stockpile (34?) of guns thbobby Oct 2017 #34
People are asking those questions oberliner Oct 2017 #50
Do you know that he was a supremacist? 58Sunliner Oct 2017 #72
Didn't mean to imply he was supremacist thbobby Oct 2017 #73
I think the point is that if the shooter were black, the Tweet would be about Aristus Oct 2017 #8
Amen uponit7771 Oct 2017 #16
are you saying if this latest shooter had a record of arrest and drug use it would not be mentioned? Skittles Oct 2017 #23
It will be brought up eventually. There are already some posts about how his father was on Aristus Oct 2017 #26
I understand there is racism but the example provided in the OP is utterly ridiculous Skittles Oct 2017 #29
I agree. Aristus Oct 2017 #36
No one thinks a mass murderer is "a neat guy".. whathehell Oct 2017 #52
That's just projection... Baconator Oct 2017 #65
In the media where I live black victims are not tainted with suspicion. 58Sunliner Oct 2017 #71
It doesn't say "racism." It says "white privilege." 6000eliot Oct 2017 #43
And what they aren't stressing was that his father Ilsa Oct 2017 #63
Like being shot multiple times for jaywalking? Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #30
I mean ANY record Skittles Oct 2017 #31
Exactly, the "framing" of white vs black is stark. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #28
This murderer seems to have had a well-developed plan gratuitous Oct 2017 #12
Exactly...to have that specific suite... HipChick Oct 2017 #19
Without a doubt. greytdemocrat Oct 2017 #44
two suites also bdamomma Oct 2017 #46
I think so too.. whathehell Oct 2017 #40
I think they're calling attention to the fact that he seemed to have it all, and yet.... Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #54
What "agenda" are you talking about? ehrnst Oct 2017 #74
That you think he's being "fondly" memorialized says something about you onenote Oct 2017 #3
It was retweeted by Chelsea Clinton, so are you insulting her as well? HipChick Oct 2017 #5
If she retweeted it she was wrong to do so. onenote Oct 2017 #14
Who are you to determine what is right or wrong for Chelsea Clinton? HipChick Oct 2017 #17
What she apparently didn't see melman Oct 2017 #32
I'm someone who is entitle to have an opinion onenote Oct 2017 #47
You've certainly moved your goalposts LanternWaste Oct 2017 #78
Link, pease, to Chelsea's retweet. Petrushka Oct 2017 #24
It IS a relatively "fond" memorialization compared to Michael Brown CakeGrrl Oct 2017 #35
The Mike Brown stuff didn't come out for about a week after he was killed. Ace Rothstein Oct 2017 #61
First impressions are lasting. CakeGrrl Oct 2017 #70
Jesus lunasun Oct 2017 #4
If he had a serious gambling addiction he was no ordinary guy, imo eleny Oct 2017 #13
Damn Skippy, HipChick MrScorpio Oct 2017 #6
exactly gopiscrap Oct 2017 #7
That's an enourmous stretch... Baconator Oct 2017 #9
No one is making anything up....there is a double standard HipChick Oct 2017 #11
We would see the same story... Baconator Oct 2017 #15
Nope... HipChick Oct 2017 #18
Keep hammering away... Baconator Oct 2017 #20
Denial Is A River That Can Run Deep... LovingA2andMI Oct 2017 #37
Is that really worse... tonedevil Oct 2017 #21
Except we already have evidence that such a story could be written... Baconator Oct 2017 #38
That would be a reasonable.. tonedevil Oct 2017 #39
Thank you. whathehell Oct 2017 #41
In what country? tia uponit7771 Oct 2017 #58
Who is supposed to be fond in this scenario? nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2017 #10
a one-sentence description is hardly "fondly memorializing" Skittles Oct 2017 #22
Ridiculous melman Oct 2017 #25
He's a fricking domestic terrorist. PatrickforO Oct 2017 #27
...... raven mad Oct 2017 #42
Trump needs to call this what it is... Dopers_Greed Oct 2017 #48
You should tell the FBI whatever info you're witholding. linuxman Oct 2017 #62
Answers: LovingA2andMI Oct 2017 #64
"Drag Queen: Anti-Gay Terrorist Omar Mateen Was My Friend" oberliner Oct 2017 #49
You'd have to be pretty thick to read that as a memorial. linuxman Oct 2017 #51
Just your average American, loved country music, apple pie, hot dogs, guillaumeb Oct 2017 #53
Exactly... HipChick Oct 2017 #56
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2017 #59
Who is fondly memorializing him?? Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #57
Oh horseshit. nt 7962 Oct 2017 #60
Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #66
So you are calling Chelsea Clinton disgusting and saying she should have rough sex with Alex Jones? HipChick Oct 2017 #68
He is now FFR BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #69
Seems this Dick was a Cryptoad Oct 2017 #67
An actual comparison to a real muslim African American Sniper, not your imaginary one Rilgin Oct 2017 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #76
Disagree matt819 Oct 2017 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Oct 2017 #79
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