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In reply to the discussion: "Making the perfect the enemy of the good." [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)78. I certainly don't always know. Sometimes I'm wrong. I'm not interested in going to the grave being
wrong either, just to try to win a pissing contest. When I recognize that I'm wrong I will absolutely cop to that fact.
I made an assumption that the plans were similar, and that one of the things Obama and Dems were trying to do was to go for a proposal that Republicans in another decade might have voted for. Turns out we'd need to go far further back to find sane, statesmen republicans...maybe to Nixon and Eisenhower. Well there was Romney's Romneycare, so maybe I'm being overly harsh.
As to brute force, I don't know what you're talking about. Nobody is advocating a coup or bloody revolution here. I'm advocating that we use our platform to inspire the public with big, clear ideas...not esoteric tweaks, not careful language that both offends and inspires as few people as possible...like "we're going to work with so and so to get something we all want..."
Because we need it to be the public who puts the pressure on Congress. Without that, there is absolutely no incentive for the GOP to do anything it isn't already doing, and there's little incentive for blue-dog dems to risk the wrath of the power-brokers in their states to bring to the people something they aren't even clamoring for and aren't even aware of could be done. There is no such thing as compromise with people who stand to lose nothing for refusing to compromise. All that looks like at the end of the day is appeasement. Giving up less to not give up more. It wins us nothing. It moves us in the wrong direction as a nation.
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Obviously, it is wrong to say that there's NO difference between the two parties
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#13
Not about her-about the way that phrase"don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good"-
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#17
Because every decision, every piece of legislation has a numerical metric of over or under 50%
ehrnst
Oct 2017
#59
That phrase "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" goes back to the Nineties
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#21
"Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater" goes back even farther than the '90's
ehrnst
Oct 2017
#23
I know it goes back to Voltaire, but it became a party maxim in the Nineties.
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#29
I think you might be very disappointed to learn about the Civil Rights act of 1964
ehrnst
Oct 2017
#65
It was a different time. But for a lot of us, it's a big thing to want to be sure...
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#106
Well, I do agree Dems could have done much better to sell H/C legislation to the public..
JHan
Oct 2017
#113
"Tearing allies down gives ammo to their opponents..." Yes indeed. I'd also add...
NurseJackie
Oct 2017
#114
For a refreshing change, why not blame Republicans for Republican-majority legislation
betsuni
Oct 2017
#52
There are few if any situations where Democratic presidents HAVE to sign Republican legislation.
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#55
Sorry Ken, your misinterpretation of HRC's point/words seems like a real stretch to me.
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#70
I did say I agree fully with what she says in the last line quoted in the OP.
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#93
One counterarguemnt for your citation is the ACA, or "Obamacare" as it is framed.
guillaumeb
Oct 2017
#40
And the motivation, the root of THAT particular backlash was open racism. eom
guillaumeb
Oct 2017
#43
yes exactly. It was a a respectable strategy. Now we know it doesn't work. We know there is no
JCanete
Oct 2017
#48
ACA is not 'the same' as Heritage. "The Heritage Plan *Was* The Conservative Alternate to the ACA"
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#69
Nobody on the left is actually against fixing K-12. It's just that by itself, that isn't enough.
Ken Burch
Oct 2017
#86
You believe a lack of college education renders secondary and primary education irrelevant?
LanternWaste
Oct 2017
#87
Of course the quote is accurate. Your "spin" is a logical leap you've made that is not
emulatorloo
Oct 2017
#103
It should be acknowledged though, that there is a distinction between compromising
JCanete
Oct 2017
#47
Interesting, thanks. That is absolutely a distinction. I'd assumed it was worse than Obamacare, but
JCanete
Oct 2017
#71
Yep, even I forgot . There's enough misinformation about the ACA out there already
JHan
Oct 2017
#76
I certainly don't always know. Sometimes I'm wrong. I'm not interested in going to the grave being
JCanete
Oct 2017
#78