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In reply to the discussion: So help me understand this. Gun owners need silencers to protect their hearing and that of others at [View all]SunSeeker
(58,295 posts)42. Wrong. From your own article:
This gets us to the other issue whether a suppressor makes it quiet, as Gillibrand tweeted, and harder for law enforcement officials to detect, as she and ARS suggested.
A 30-decibel reduction in theory means an AR-15 rifle would have a noise equivalent of 132 decibels. That is considered equivalent to a gunshot or a jackhammer. A .22-caliber pistol would be 116 decibels, which is louder than a 100-watt car stereo. In all likelihood, the noise level is actually higher.
So what are opponents of the law talking about?
We arent necessarily talking about being out in the middle of the woods deer hunting where it is extremely quiet. Instead, gun crimes often occur in cities and in other very noisy places, said Marc Brumer, a Gillibrand spokesman. The shots would be heard by law enforcement or witnesses at the guns typical decibel level, but they often cannot be heard when a silencer is added. There are many sounds in cities that are far louder than a gunshot masked by a silencer.
A nightclub, he noted, has a sound level of 155 decibels, while a subway is 102 decibels. (Actually, while sound levels as high as 155 decibels have been detected in night clubs, thats not an average and would be very damaging to a persons hearing.)
Relative to their normal decibel level, particularly in those urban environments where gun crime often occurs, I outlined in previous email, silencers make guns impossible to hear over many common sounds and therefore quiet, Brumer said.
A 30-decibel reduction in theory means an AR-15 rifle would have a noise equivalent of 132 decibels. That is considered equivalent to a gunshot or a jackhammer. A .22-caliber pistol would be 116 decibels, which is louder than a 100-watt car stereo. In all likelihood, the noise level is actually higher.
So what are opponents of the law talking about?
We arent necessarily talking about being out in the middle of the woods deer hunting where it is extremely quiet. Instead, gun crimes often occur in cities and in other very noisy places, said Marc Brumer, a Gillibrand spokesman. The shots would be heard by law enforcement or witnesses at the guns typical decibel level, but they often cannot be heard when a silencer is added. There are many sounds in cities that are far louder than a gunshot masked by a silencer.
A nightclub, he noted, has a sound level of 155 decibels, while a subway is 102 decibels. (Actually, while sound levels as high as 155 decibels have been detected in night clubs, thats not an average and would be very damaging to a persons hearing.)
Relative to their normal decibel level, particularly in those urban environments where gun crime often occurs, I outlined in previous email, silencers make guns impossible to hear over many common sounds and therefore quiet, Brumer said.
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So help me understand this. Gun owners need silencers to protect their hearing and that of others at [View all]
phylny
Oct 2017
OP
True. I wouldn't want my body to get in the way of someone's need to have enough guns to kill
phylny
Oct 2017
#37
there is no constitutional barrier to regulating silencers, which is why congress
Voltaire2
Oct 2017
#7
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octoberlib
Oct 2017
#17