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SunSeeker

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42. Wrong. From your own article:
Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:02 PM
Oct 2017
This gets us to the other issue — whether a suppressor makes it “quiet,” as Gillibrand tweeted, and harder for law enforcement officials to detect, as she and ARS suggested.

A 30-decibel reduction in theory means an AR-15 rifle would have a noise equivalent of 132 decibels. That is considered equivalent to a gunshot or a jackhammer. A .22-caliber pistol would be 116 decibels, which is louder than a 100-watt car stereo. In all likelihood, the noise level is actually higher.

So what are opponents of the law talking about?

“We aren’t necessarily talking about being out in the middle of the woods deer hunting where it is extremely quiet. Instead, gun crimes often occur in cities and in other very noisy places,” said Marc Brumer, a Gillibrand spokesman. “The shots would be heard by law enforcement or witnesses at the gun’s typical decibel level, but they often cannot be heard when a silencer is added. There are many sounds in cities that are far louder than a gunshot masked by a silencer.”

A nightclub, he noted, has a sound level of 155 decibels, while a subway is 102 decibels.
(Actually, while sound levels as high as 155 decibels have been detected in night clubs, that’s not an average and would be very damaging to a person’s hearing.)

“Relative to their normal decibel level, particularly in those urban environments where gun crime often occurs, I outlined in previous email, silencers make guns impossible to hear over many common sounds and therefore ‘quiet,’ ” Brumer said.


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Yes, and now Soxfan58 Oct 2017 #1
They can wear earplugs. Period. octoberlib Oct 2017 #2
Ha! Ha! That is the most stupid B.S. excuse I have ever heard. UCmeNdc Oct 2017 #3
You could wear a bullet-proof vest. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #4
Perhaps a suit of armor? To protect my head and limb arteries? nt phylny Oct 2017 #31
Maybe, but what a burden for you. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #36
True. I wouldn't want my body to get in the way of someone's need to have enough guns to kill phylny Oct 2017 #37
Regardless of the 2nd, it would have no bearing on a damn silencer. 7962 Oct 2017 #5
Actually under the law they are defined as "firearms" Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #6
there is no constitutional barrier to regulating silencers, which is why congress Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #7
And.....no constitutional barrier to regulating Airplanes either..... ashredux Oct 2017 #8
well no shit, that was my point. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #9
But we have no "right" to own an airplane. 7962 Oct 2017 #46
It's like motorcycles being so loud to protect the drivers' safety Orrex Oct 2017 #10
The two things are unconnected. Adrahil Oct 2017 #11
Wrong. The two are indeed connected. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #21
I've gone into this before... Adrahil Oct 2017 #24
Do you use your gun to commit mass shootings? kcr Oct 2017 #30
Then what point are you arguing? I'm missing it. NT Adrahil Oct 2017 #32
Yes, it's obvious you're missing it. kcr Oct 2017 #33
I'm trying to have a reasonable conversation with you. Adrahil Oct 2017 #34
I'll snark all I want. It's my defense mechanism against ridiculous arguments kcr Oct 2017 #35
Oh for fuck's sake. Adrahil Oct 2017 #39
Wrong. From your own article: SunSeeker Oct 2017 #42
But I thought they were "Silent?" Adrahil Oct 2017 #43
I never said they were "Silent." SunSeeker Oct 2017 #44
Get better ear muffs. Or a better hobby. Fishing is very quiet. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #41
Then they can rent them from range stillsoleft Oct 2017 #12
Pardon my naivity... paleotn Oct 2017 #13
Subsonic (silenced) bullets have no use in target practice. gordianot Oct 2017 #14
I do own some subsonic .22LR rounds. Adrahil Oct 2017 #25
Is concern about 3.5 million Americans in bad trouble being silenced? Hortensis Oct 2017 #15
Single payer and silencers are legal in France Not Ruth Oct 2017 #16
Why should anybody be able to buy armor piercing bullets? You'd think cops would be raising octoberlib Oct 2017 #17
Did you actually look at the proposed legislation? hack89 Oct 2017 #18
Here's the section! atreides1 Oct 2017 #19
I guess that is my point. hack89 Oct 2017 #20
This is a result of.... Adrahil Oct 2017 #26
Here is what that is Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #40
Because every deer rifle uses bullets that can penetrate armor? NickB79 Oct 2017 #23
Most high powered Break time Oct 2017 #45
They need silencers to make them more efficient killers - avebury Oct 2017 #22
If Congress drops more regs relating to silencers, shooters & poachers will be impossible to "hear" Sunlei Oct 2017 #27
Nobody needs a silencer for a firearm. MineralMan Oct 2017 #28
I'd agree it's about wants, but... Adrahil Oct 2017 #38
Now now. You wouldn't want people to go deaf when they're getting shot at. tenderfoot Oct 2017 #29
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