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46. OMFG.

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Tue Oct 3, 2017, 12:55 PM

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Nice guy I used to work with died today because his health insurance wouldn't cover treatment for.. [View all] kpete Oct 2017 OP

Sounds like he would have lived if he had single payer Not Ruth Oct 2017 #1

NO! He was ELIGIBLE for Medicare but he didn't sign up for it. Transplants are one of the few pnwmom Oct 2017 #7

People should not have to become healthcare experts simply to choose the proper plan. Native Oct 2017 #11

Deadline dates are for profit Not Ruth Oct 2017 #13

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Agree, this is Shameful iluvtennis Oct 2017 #22

That's why I love health care.gov- that website has consumer protections-they help me pick a plan & Sunlei Oct 2017 #27

This guy had DOCTORS who certainly would have told him about the importance pnwmom Oct 2017 #36

Not necessarily. Native Oct 2017 #42

The guy didn't say that no one told him --which would have been a natural thing to say, if true. pnwmom Oct 2017 #43

I hate it when people start saying crap like what you've just said... Native Oct 2017 #44

He "didn't choose Medicare during the enrollment period." He had the choice. n/t pnwmom Oct 2017 #45

OMFG. Native Oct 2017 #46

Odd you focus on the failure of the deceased patient, and ignore the systemic failure LanternWaste Oct 2017 #59

Victim blaming. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #74

Agreed. area51 Oct 2017 #82

I agree. It's stuff like this that makes me want to quit DU. Native Oct 2017 #90

This guy is dead. And the friend of a DUer. moriah Oct 2017 #53

He's not the friend of a DUer. A DUer reposted someone's tweet from Twitter. nt pnwmom Oct 2017 #57

And you're certain that "Kpete" isn't "Ken Klippenstein"? moriah Oct 2017 #60

pretty sure kpete is a she. mopinko Oct 2017 #84

I feel it too. Something's wrong here. crosinski Oct 2017 #62

No, it's defense of the ACA. Which I get. moriah Oct 2017 #64

Ah, ok. Thanks for explaining. crosinski Oct 2017 #73

I didn't say it was smart or even fully conscious defense of the ACA. moriah Oct 2017 #79

Moriah, you are kind. Yes, I see what you're talking about now. Live & learn. n/t crosinski Oct 2017 #85

What the heck? sharedvalues Oct 2017 #88

More that this guy had resources available to him - Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #80

... you can see, though, that not every patient is going to know... moriah Oct 2017 #81

I agree that insurance companies suck. Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #86

Also, looking at context of the post.... moriah Oct 2017 #56

Yes. There's going to be more here. People are denied transplants when Hortensis Oct 2017 #28

Much more a shame a health insurance provider failed to provide insurance for his health. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #58

That is not true. Texasgal Oct 2017 #68

ESRD has emergency eligibility protocols... moriah Oct 2017 #83

My husband was placed on a liver/kidney Texasgal Oct 2017 #89

what a shame we don't live in a country where medical questionseverything Oct 2017 #70

The biggest massacre in US history. Private health insurance. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #2

Amen Native Oct 2017 #49

It is both sick and sad that this is Bettie Oct 2017 #3

A manslaughter charge should be filed against the officers of his insurance carrier. LonePirate Oct 2017 #4

I wonder why he chose not to go on Medicare, which he said would have covered the transplant Tanuki Oct 2017 #5

I don't know why he didn't, but I know why I haven't so far. WillowTree Oct 2017 #51

And Planned Parenthood Navigators that were so great helping my wife find the best ACA plan IADEMO2004 Oct 2017 #6

The reality here is that MEDICARE would have paid for this if the guy's friend had signed up. pnwmom Oct 2017 #8

But with single payer, he probably could have signed up anytime Not Ruth Oct 2017 #9

He had months to sign up for it. Yeah, with the single payer that doesn't exist, maybe he'd pnwmom Oct 2017 #10

This whole health care system is a labyrinth and hard for many people to navigate Bradshaw3 Oct 2017 #20

Who do you know who has complained about signing up for MEDICARE? It's not that hard to navigate. pnwmom Oct 2017 #37

You don't know him or his situation so it's wrong to be so judgmental Bradshaw3 Oct 2017 #50

He did have that healthcare system. It is called Medicare and he didn't sign up. pnwmom Oct 2017 #52

Of course, your priority is not health, but blame. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #61

I didn't trash Medicare and neither did he. Bradshaw3 Oct 2017 #65

pnwmom, even if he chose the wrong insurance because he didn't think about it hard enough, crosinski Oct 2017 #54

I'm saying he isn't a great poster child for the cause of single payer, because he didn't enroll pnwmom Oct 2017 #55

Are we looking for that perfect child who died too soon? crosinski Oct 2017 #63

I agree. And blaming the victim based on limited information is even more heartless. Native Oct 2017 #48

Sounds to me like the insurance he had WOULD cover pangaia Oct 2017 #17

It could be he did not know... I am 60, soon to be 61... Raster Oct 2017 #23

Don't you think that if you were on dialysis and needing a transplant pnwmom Oct 2017 #40

I don't have ESKD and I am not on dialysis and, thank god, don't need a transplant... Raster Oct 2017 #41

Here's the issue people have with early Medicare - it's presented as welfare. haele Oct 2017 #26

"Caveat Emptor is not acceptable for a critical service like health care" renate Oct 2017 #31

I think you are conflating Medicare with Medicaid. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #34

Nope, my husband is eligible for Medicare. But it's more expensive than my current insurance. haele Oct 2017 #39

Not to mention that it is always a crap shoot when you have to get verification from a rep Native Oct 2017 #47

All of those great discoveries of medical scientists throughout the centuries were made so that... Towlie Oct 2017 #12

My good friend, 46, died last month for the same reason Johonny Oct 2017 #14

While I agree that access to wealth should not be a barrier to health care, Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #15

My wife (Craftygal) is on dialysis TrogL Oct 2017 #16

Please tell me he has family to sue the hell out of them. DK504 Oct 2017 #18

Youre damn right its personal SCantiGOP Oct 2017 #19

What an incredibly misleading headline. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #21

He doesn't actually say that his insurance wouldn't pay for diabetes treatment. WillowTree Oct 2017 #25

Yes, pertinent missing information. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #30

I can sympathize with ignoring symptoms renate Oct 2017 #32

He didn't ignore those symptoms because he was concerned about a pre-existing condition, PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #35

There are generally zero clear-cut symptoms of type 2 diabetes Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #75

I likewise know people diagnosed with type 2 diabetes PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #76

Since vision is associated with diabetes - Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #78

I wonder if Kens friend was as confused as Iam with this story..... Old Vet Oct 2017 #24

Whatever the case may be, the insurance co.s make it so damn stressful YOHABLO Oct 2017 #29

this is why we should have Universal Single Payer gopiscrap Oct 2017 #33

Except he didn't sign up for our governmental single payer (Medicare) when he had the chance. nt pnwmom Oct 2017 #66

You are really coming across as a complete jerk ... fyi Persondem Oct 2017 #87

Holy shit ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #38

That is what I was wondering. How is it that none of his healthcare providers impressed upon him pnwmom Oct 2017 #67

Maybe his doctors didn't accept medicare (and/or didn't know?), ecstatic Oct 2017 #71

That's so awful, but I also agree with others that we have to be clear ecstatic Oct 2017 #69

I'd guess there is a lot more to this story that is not being told taught_me_patience Oct 2017 #72

You said it... beyond words. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #77