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3. just to keep some perspective here,

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 02:08 PM

Oct 2017

it would certainly be worth celebrating a 5-4 decision to restrict partisan gerrymandering.

however, there's no way partisan gerrymandering will be eliminated. at best they'll come up with some test -- maybe well-defined, maybe not -- that says when a partisan gerrymandering has gone too far.

so at best we're looking at a partial victory where maybe a gerrymander as extreme as wisconsin is not allowed, but a partisan gerrymander somewhat short of that extreme is acceptable.

this would translate to more fairness in congressional elections and a pickup of a few seats in the house for democrats on average, but it's not the holy grail of anything.

legislatures (particularly republican ones) will continue to gerrymander to the full extent of what they can get away with, it just might be a bit harder for them to get away with quite so much. until they find a creative way around it, and you can bet they'll be looking for that before the ink is dry on the decision.

i'll be thrilled with a victory here, but i'm not expecting anything earth-shattering even if we win.

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Maybe just maybe, a glimmer of hope and possibly GOOD news? This of course, is huge! [View all] PearliePoo2 Oct 2017 OP

There is hope. If Gerrymandering in Wi. goes down. lovemydogs Oct 2017 #1

It won't take down Walker, but it possible Ryan would be gone, Greybnk48 Oct 2017 #10

Ugghhh. Here's from Ari Berman's Twitter on what C.J. Roberts said: PearliePoo2 Oct 2017 #2

Those words sound corrupt. Let's hope he has concern for a respectable legacy. Hortensis Oct 2017 #6

just to keep some perspective here, unblock Oct 2017 #3

I thought that this was a litmus test and would set a precedent BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #8

if they actually decide something, it may well set a precedent. unblock Oct 2017 #14

You're right. They always seem to find a sneaky way BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #16

The hope is that more states adopt a non-partisan group BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #9

that sounds like a good idea, but i would think that needs to be legislated unblock Oct 2017 #15

Yup but it is an option that should be pushed regardless of how the courts rule. BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #19

Look at what Ohio did to District 6 Marthe48 Oct 2017 #18

Wanna see something worse? Check out PA-7 BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #20

State of PA is listed 3rd in the 2nd link I posted Marthe48 Oct 2017 #22

Thanks for something good. This SCOTUS case is so big, I feel a bit ill Hortensis Oct 2017 #4

Oh God....I am on pins and needles here jodymarie aimee Oct 2017 #5

Here's a link to SCOTUSblog. Amy Howe writes a good analysis of today. PearliePoo2 Oct 2017 #7

"But there was no apparent agreement about whether courts could or should get involved" BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #11

Oh the extremes we must go to to explain the obvious to republicans. gtar100 Oct 2017 #12

This is the last, best hope for the Christian* Republic of Scott Walkerstan to revert back Still In Wisconsin Oct 2017 #13

It will be a fatal body blow to the State if we lose. Greybnk48 Oct 2017 #23

It really will. If the SC rules in favor of Walker on this one, Still In Wisconsin Oct 2017 #24

That's been the standard for a while... Baconator Oct 2017 #17

Worst gerrymandering from Buzzfeed (2013) and Rant (2017) Marthe48 Oct 2017 #21

Very scary that just one Justice could change the course of this....... a kennedy Oct 2017 #25