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In reply to the discussion: "Making the perfect the enemy of the good." [View all]JHan
(10,173 posts)In many of the responses to you in this thread there is objection to either/or arguments. Compromise is the antithesis of the dualistic approach of Either/Or.
I'm not a policy expert, just a layman trying to make sense of the trends:
These links are a good overview of the study in question.
This link also provides supplementary data from other research looking into tuition costs https://www.forbes.com/sites/akelly/2015/10/08/does-federal-student-aid-cause-tuition-increases-it-certainly-enables-them/
Vox also looked at the study , and there's some refutation of the claims being made . I particularly like the analogy of car loans and car prices. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/8/12/9130157/financial-aid-tuition-bennett-hypothesis
This covers the pesky business of fees, another layer of expense :https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/01/how-university-costs-keep-rising-despite-tuition-freezes/512036/
But my skepticism has more to do with the idea that degrees are a magical solution to income disparity.
From Income Inequality and Education Richard Breen,Inkwan Chung ( University of Oxford & Yale University ) https://www.sociologicalscience.com/download/volume-2/august/SocSci_v2_454to477.pdf
From the abstract :
Take note of figure 3 on pg 13 which this section references:
It might be objected that education explains only a small share of inequality because the educational groupings we are using are not sufficiently discriminating: the category college for example, puts together graduates from different colleges and from different majors and also includes people with post-graduate degrees. Perhaps if we had a finer categorization of education we could explain more; some of the within-education inequality would then become between-education inequality. We repeated our analyses with six categories of education: less than high school GED high school diploma some college completed college and advanced degree (MA, PhD or professional qualification) This had little impact on the share of inequality explained by education.
For example, if we consider only the results for the entire period, the original four categories of education accounted for 0.044/(0.044 + 0.122) = 26.5 percent of total adjusted (for within-person volatility) inequality in the older cohort and 27.4 percent in the younger cohort. Using the six categories these percentages change to 27 percent and 27.8 percent. The additional contributions from the use of the finer categorization to between-group inequality in each of the sub-periods are similarly very small."
Which is why I questioned the sense of a high school graduate taking themselves out of the market for 4 years, to pursue an unproductive degree according to market demands, for the purpose of netting an above-median wage only to then be disappointed.
And my focus on k-12 is the direct link it has on generational wealth: poor education in formative years puts you out of the loop permanently. Literacy and numeracy rates are alarming enough in a country that is the richest and most powerful in the world.