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Marengo

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144. Don't need to, where I live suppressors are perfectly legal as long as they are purchased through...

Tue Oct 3, 2017, 11:08 PM

Oct 2017

The proscribed process. Now that it seems the HPA is on hold, I'm going ahead with the process to obtain one for my hunting rifle. I can readily afford the suppressor and the associated fees, and my CLEO will sign off with no questions. Don't like that pal? Tough shit.

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Silencers Should Be Illegal & Putting One On A Gun A Felony. Screw Gun Nuts & The NRA. [View all] TheMastersNemesis Oct 2017 OP

K & R SunSeeker Oct 2017 #1

I'm a gun owner and I agree 100 percent. roamer65 Oct 2017 #2

Reasonable Gun Laws Are Needed. But Open Carry With NO Background Checks Is Nuts. TheMastersNemesis Oct 2017 #3

Personally, I think Public comes first. Hoyt Oct 2017 #6

Hunting rifles and shotguns legal, highly restricted handguns. roamer65 Oct 2017 #163

K & R 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2017 #4

But they're as loud as jackhammer !!!(which isn't true) uponit7771 Oct 2017 #5

Then don't shoot them! SharonAnn Oct 2017 #8

How loud is a silenced AR-15? How loud is a jack hammer? hack89 Oct 2017 #13

Strawman, never said AR15 but damn well know a silenced .22 doesn't maker the sound of a jackhammer! uponit7771 Oct 2017 #168

Because we know that .22 rifles are the choice of mass killers everywhere, don't we? hack89 Oct 2017 #177

.22 riffle with a silencer is not louder than a tornado siren at same distance but go ahead and ... uponit7771 Oct 2017 #178

So why don't you throw out some numbers hack89 Oct 2017 #179

Here you go uponit7771 Oct 2017 #180

So why fixate on .22 rifles? Are they a threat to public safety? hack89 Oct 2017 #181

You narrowed the conversation to a .22 rifle not me & the comparison to an emergency siren was yours uponit7771 Oct 2017 #182

No. You brought up the subject hack89 Oct 2017 #183

Another strawman, I didn't narrow the subject to the riffle or the comparison to sirens you did eith uponit7771 Oct 2017 #184

Now is the time for you to actually explain why they are dangerous. hack89 Oct 2017 #185

Never said they weren't safe, just an unneeded WMD enhancement uponit7771 Oct 2017 #186

Why didn't Anders Breivik use a suppressor when they are readily available in Norway? There's... Marengo Oct 2017 #191

Bullshit X_Digger Oct 2017 #167

A 22 is not as loud as a jackhammer with a silencer on it, that's what's bullshit and so is the ... uponit7771 Oct 2017 #169

That goal post must be heavy, feel free to set it down. X_Digger Oct 2017 #173

You narrowed the conversation you moved the goal post, either way no one with the gumper position uponit7771 Oct 2017 #176

No, you said "they"-- a generic. Not a 22. I gave you generic data. X_Digger Oct 2017 #189

How often are suppressors used in the commission of crime in the USA? How about Norway or... Marengo Oct 2017 #7

OK Ill bite.... Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #9

As a hunter, I support the use of suppressors in this context. The population density where I live Marengo Oct 2017 #11

I respectfully disagree with that Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #12

You'd better have a suppressor on your bow, pal. Orrex Oct 2017 #15

Man...I know right???!! Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #20

You mean like this one? oneshooter Oct 2017 #110

Noise reduction accessories are very common on archery tackle. How can you not know this? Marengo Oct 2017 #38

What makes you think that I don't know it? Orrex Oct 2017 #44

I don't believe you did, and we're talking archery tackle not guns. Marengo Oct 2017 #50

I don't care what a gun advocate believes Orrex Oct 2017 #55

And I should care what someone who proposes all gun owners should be placed on a publicly... Marengo Oct 2017 #62

I haven't yet put you on Ignore because I knew you'd post something silly in response Orrex Oct 2017 #63

In your home ownership records, are the contents of your home listed? Especially those of value Marengo Oct 2017 #64

Nope, try again Orrex Oct 2017 #66

Ah, so there is no market for stolen firearms? They have no value? Where do most gun owners... Marengo Oct 2017 #68

Why should I defend your position for you? Is it because you obviously can't? Orrex Oct 2017 #70

From this response I interpret you priorities to be the harassment of gun owners. If you acknowledge Marengo Oct 2017 #72

Why should I defend your position for you? Is it because you obviously can't? Orrex Oct 2017 #77

You seem entirely incapable of addressing basic security and safety concerns regarding the... Marengo Oct 2017 #82

Nope, try again Orrex Oct 2017 #83

If it's your belief that gun owners are famously inable to keep there arms secure, why on earth... Marengo Oct 2017 #98

Simple: I am calling for so-called "responsible gun owners" to be responsible for their guns Orrex Oct 2017 #101

Unjustied? How many firearms used in crime are the legally acquired property of the perp? Marengo Oct 2017 #104

You are certainly correct--the proliferation of guns is the underlying problem. Well done! Orrex Oct 2017 #108

Is there a Federal requirement that firearms be stored in a theft resistant container? Does every... Marengo Oct 2017 #111

Beats the fuck out of me. Why the fuck should I care? Orrex Oct 2017 #113

If public safety was your priority, you would know and care. Your contemptible response is very... Marengo Oct 2017 #118

That's weak. Orrex Oct 2017 #137

If you actually believed any of this tripe, then you would have posted an inventory of the items... Marengo Oct 2017 #146

I love how you tell me what I think and believe Orrex Oct 2017 #153

What are you afraid of? According to you, no sensible person should be concerned to have... Marengo Oct 2017 #158

You've had sufficient time to compile and post that inventory I asked for. Why haven't you? Marengo Oct 2017 #190

I'm still waiting for that inventory I requested from you. What are you afraid of? Marengo Oct 2017 #199

And still I wait. What are you afraid of? According to you, any concern is only paranoia. Marengo Oct 2017 #200

How about you post an inventory of the items within your residence, to include brand name and... Marengo Oct 2017 #121

Nope. That's an unreasonable and irrelevant requirement. Orrex Oct 2017 #138

As I expected. Unless you will claim to possess not a single knife in your home, there most... Marengo Oct 2017 #142

LOL. Knives. Sure. Any other NRA talking points you'd care to parrot? Orrex Oct 2017 #150

Do you deny that knives have been used to commit mass killings? Marengo Oct 2017 #155

We've put "suppressors" on our bows since the 70's. ileus Oct 2017 #164

I understand your concern absolutely. I grew up on a 100 acre horse ranch in rural Ohio. Marengo Oct 2017 #18

They do make suppressors for shotguns and bowstrings, fyi NickB79 Oct 2017 #21

Here's your shotgun silencer, friendo: Orrex Oct 2017 #22

Lol, they're actually a bit larger NickB79 Oct 2017 #27

Truly did not know that...thanks Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #23

I don't MyNameGoesHere Oct 2017 #14

LOL! Sure thing pal, I'm scurrying off because you're "not having it". Who are you, again? Marengo Oct 2017 #16

Yes. It's too bad millions of people use guns to get to work every morning kcr Oct 2017 #24

Irrelevant as, following the line of logic used by the poster I responded to, all operators of Marengo Oct 2017 #26

Please provide your statistics Orrex Oct 2017 #30

Only one statistic is necessary in the context of the poster's statement. I wonder if you might be Marengo Oct 2017 #34

Oh? People really do drive guns to work? Huh. Who knew? n/t kcr Oct 2017 #33

Oh? You couldn't comprehend my point? Why am I not surprised? Marengo Oct 2017 #35

Pointing out an invalid point is not misunderstanding it. Weapons are not methods of transportation. kcr Oct 2017 #126

However, methods of transportation can be used as weapons. Sufficiently proven at Nice. Marengo Oct 2017 #127

But that doesn't make them weapons. They're still modes of transportation. kcr Oct 2017 #128

Technically, the Renault at Nice became an improvised weapon, and there a numerous restrictions... Marengo Oct 2017 #130

Well, yes, of course there are restrictions. They're not weapons, duh. kcr Oct 2017 #132

It's adorable when gun advocates try to be condescending Orrex Oct 2017 #42

Imagine? Did I image a Renault truck killed 86 and injured 458 in Nice? Was that a "silly... Marengo Oct 2017 #43

Nope, try again Orrex Oct 2017 #46

Yep, insensibility it is as you repeatedly demonstrate an inability to understand a simple exchange. Marengo Oct 2017 #51

Nope, try again Orrex Oct 2017 #57

And once again you are ignoring the fact that something not designed as a weapon was used Marengo Oct 2017 #65

Nope, try again Orrex Oct 2017 #67

Ah. So because it's not designed as a weapon a public safety issue doesn't exist? Why don't you Marengo Oct 2017 #69

Why should I defend your position for you? Is it because you obviously can't? Orrex Oct 2017 #71

How about re-reading my comment on how to prevent a future NICE type event and try again. Marengo Oct 2017 #74

Why are you changing the subject? Orrex Oct 2017 #80

Nope, try again... Marengo Oct 2017 #84

Because you obviously brought that up in an effort to change the subject Orrex Oct 2017 #85

Nope, try again. Why did you reply to my question with a non-sensical answer about gun control... Marengo Oct 2017 #90

What kind of answer are you seeking? Orrex Oct 2017 #96

I invite you to answer the question I asked, and am puzzled by your inability to do so. Marengo Oct 2017 #107

Because, as I've noted repeatedly, it is simply an attempt to change the subject Orrex Oct 2017 #112

I don't believe that you actually can without compromising your position. Otherwise, you would have Marengo Oct 2017 #117

No, that's wishful thinking on your part Orrex Oct 2017 #139

LOL! I don't believe for a moment that's intended to be an honest answer. Try again. Marengo Oct 2017 #145

LOL. Orrex Oct 2017 #151

It was a transparently inept attempt at baiting on your part. Try again. Marengo Oct 2017 #157

I own neither MyNameGoesHere Oct 2017 #129

Not a single knife, not even of the kitchen varient? Marengo Oct 2017 #131

Got a butter knife MyNameGoesHere Oct 2017 #134

Satoshi Uematsu used a kitchen knife to murder 19 people in July of 2016. I have other examples... Marengo Oct 2017 #147

Oh I knew your examples were coming. MyNameGoesHere Oct 2017 #152

You can use the bump stock to cut 1,000 carrots in ten minutes Orrex Oct 2017 #154

I fully expect MyNameGoesHere Oct 2017 #156

As is the case in each of the frequent mass shootings... Orrex Oct 2017 #159

Now that we have established that you do possess the means to inflict mass casualties, how do we... Marengo Oct 2017 #160

Easy MyNameGoesHere Oct 2017 #162

I'm curious as to why you denied possessing an implement capable of inflicting mass casualties. Marengo Oct 2017 #188

My implement was made to cut veggies MyNameGoesHere Oct 2017 #196

So was Mamoru Takuma's knife. At any rate, according to the 2016 FBI stats, more were murdered Marengo Oct 2017 #197

Likewise.... Adrahil Oct 2017 #31

Well, tough shit. Find better hearing protection. nt USALiberal Oct 2017 #140

Don't need to, where I live suppressors are perfectly legal as long as they are purchased through... Marengo Oct 2017 #144

LOL, ok tough guy. nt USALiberal Oct 2017 #165

The cops did NOT locate the shooter from the gun report. Adrahil Oct 2017 #32

Actually I had heard Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #36

That was the specific room... Adrahil Oct 2017 #39

Heres the article I referenced Docreed2003 Oct 2017 #37

Correct, but MosheFeingold Oct 2017 #59

To that particular room. Read above. NT Adrahil Oct 2017 #81

Well isn't that funny, cause silencers also reduce muzzle flash! n/t kcr Oct 2017 #92

Yes they do. That is true enough. Adrahil Oct 2017 #148

The shooter's hearing is not the only factor to be considered. better Oct 2017 #115

Can you even use a suppressor on the type of weapon he used? B2G Oct 2017 #28

Depends.... Adrahil Oct 2017 #40

Not more than a couple of times MosheFeingold Oct 2017 #60

Can we silence the GOP and NRA instead? BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #10

You don't have a clue what you talking about Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #17

Gawd, those gun prohibition advocates. Just as bad as the tank prohibition advocates. kcr Oct 2017 #25

Tanks with no or inoperable weapons can be easily purchased if one has the money. Marengo Oct 2017 #41

There are people who do indeed make laws against this! You didn't know this? kcr Oct 2017 #45

Legal on a Federal level, and I grew up in a "sleepy little Everytown Hollow". Fellow down the road Marengo Oct 2017 #49

Tank prohibitionists don't give a flying fuck about the Federal level, my friend. kcr Oct 2017 #86

The "killdozer" event occured in 2004. The fellow down the road still has his armored vehicles... Marengo Oct 2017 #93

Okay. Typing really slowly. kcr Oct 2017 #95

The M3 APC yes, the M4A1 only in parades as I recall. The M4A1 was transported to the site on... Marengo Oct 2017 #100

So basically a glorified parade float. kcr Oct 2017 #103

Any prohibition that exists(ed) would have been based on the vehicles weight, track type, and lack Marengo Oct 2017 #106

Oh, thank you! My point! kcr Oct 2017 #109

Again, there isnt a prohibition on owning a tank as a vehicle type on a Federal level. Some in fact. Marengo Oct 2017 #114

Well, yes. Owning guns is legal, too! kcr Oct 2017 #116

Where, exactly, are these tank prohibitionists you keep referring to in that case? Marengo Oct 2017 #122

... kcr Oct 2017 #123

Not a coherent one from you at any rate. Do try to be better informed on a subject before taking... Marengo Oct 2017 #124

Look up. I'm not the one that introduced the term prohibition. kcr Oct 2017 #125

If you drive real slow with the top open......sure Not Ruth Oct 2017 #102

Wow! That's official documentation right there! kcr Oct 2017 #105

I believe that is not a tank. oneshooter Oct 2017 #136

LOL! Whenever I read "prohibitionist" and it's varients in your posts, the face of Inigo Montoya Marengo Oct 2017 #119

There was some hobbyist in the UK with hundreds of tanks on his property Not Ruth Oct 2017 #78

Oh, my fucking god... kcr Oct 2017 #87

He bought the tank on EBay that's right, you can now buy a tank on EBay! Not Ruth Oct 2017 #91

Can you take it for a spin around the neighborhood? kcr Oct 2017 #94

Effective earmuff-style hearing protection has been available for decades to shooters. Paladin Oct 2017 #47

The best ear muffs can protect for 33 dB under ideal conditions. Adrahil Oct 2017 #52

Your earmuffs are not as good as you think Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #61

6% of the population hunted in the last 12 months, and I bet most of those went to drink and talk Hoyt Oct 2017 #53

Wouldn't Following The OSHA Recommendation Be Best Facilitated. . . ProfessorGAC Oct 2017 #73

No, it's by making the gun quieter Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #79

Right. OSHA is all about making deadly things safer while doing the deadly things they're doing! kcr Oct 2017 #88

Where Did I Mention Outlawing Anything? ProfessorGAC Oct 2017 #89

Hearing protection? LOL what a bunch of delicate snowflakes snooper2 Oct 2017 #76

The RWers are actually calling it the Ear Protection act. kcr Oct 2017 #99

Not shocked you defend every possible gun use. n/t USALiberal Oct 2017 #141

Well then deal with those problems treestar Oct 2017 #171

worried about your hearing? DiverDave Oct 2017 #192

I'm not worried about my "manlyness" as you spell it Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #193

lol DiverDave Oct 2017 #198

I'm fine with silencers being regulated like ordinary firearms (not NFA items). aikoaiko Oct 2017 #19

Do you feel the same way about fully automatic firearms? (nt) Paladin Oct 2017 #48

I'm willing to compromise on full automatics being left in NFA as long as the moratorium is lifted. aikoaiko Oct 2017 #54

16 million new guns in 2016 alone. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #29

Record # In 2013 SoCalMusicLover Oct 2017 #56

He was uncovered MosheFeingold Oct 2017 #58

Totally agree gopiscrap Oct 2017 #75

When you say the "civilian market", do you mean the police as well? Man_Bear_Pig Oct 2017 #97

I mostly agree. But you're wrong about Vegas. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #120

Full auto and suppresors do not mix well. oneshooter Oct 2017 #194

If suppressors were half as awesome as people seem to think they are... Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #195

Actual Silencer Facts Always Right Oct 2017 #133

Thanks for the information Rhiannon12866 Oct 2017 #135

A very good write up. Kaleva Oct 2017 #143

Legal in europe manicdem Oct 2017 #149

In France they are required in many areas in order to hunt. oneshooter Oct 2017 #161

So you're saying much of the EU is crazy for selling them like ammunition? Over the counter? X_Digger Oct 2017 #166

Deal with being considered uncouth and inconsiderate treestar Oct 2017 #172

Oh look, someone else who gets their information from hollywood X_Digger Oct 2017 #174

Yes I do know very little about guns treestar Oct 2017 #175

Agree. No need for those unless you treestar Oct 2017 #170

The NRA is a terrorist organization. alarimer Oct 2017 #187

The op states that if the Vegas shooter had used a silencer SonofDonald Oct 2017 #201