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mia

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64. I don't agree with your interpretation.

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:22 AM

Jul 2012

There are times when all of us pay in and take out. The time will soon be coming when I will be taking out as I am beyond SS retirement age. I consider it a privilege to have been able to work for so long. I'm a teacher and no matter what you or anyone else says I'll continue teach my students that their achievement has a lot to do with their efforts. It's something to do with empowerment.

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A day in the life of the self made man. [View all] Cerridwen Jul 2012 OP

Outstanding! nt aaaaaa5a Jul 2012 #1

Thank you. :) n/t Cerridwen Jul 2012 #2

Given that... mia Jul 2012 #3

"choose to do nothing but collect government benefits" Cerridwen Jul 2012 #4

Bring it on, Cerridwen. mia Jul 2012 #9

Nope. Cerridwen Jul 2012 #10

You're the one casting blame. mia Jul 2012 #12

Stating facts is "casting blame"? Cerridwen Jul 2012 #13

okay mia Jul 2012 #14

I'll excuse this. You're obviously drunk. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #73

I'm going to say it straight up. lapislzi Jul 2012 #96

Your post is correct on all counts. 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #117

Fine, then. lapislzi Jul 2012 #147

I think you have that utterly, completely backwards. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #103

I always tell people to look inside, up and around. Media and RW talk tell us to admire the UP, freshwest Jul 2012 #31

Guess you're tired of getting water from the tap that won't poison you, kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #71

Like most Limbeciles, you've got it backward Doctor_J Jul 2012 #82

then you should hate DonCoquixote Jul 2012 #109

I guess it's way too late to say... nicky187 Jul 2012 #110

May I ask you a question? 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #118

Grover, is that you? n/t Enrique Jul 2012 #124

then get the fuck out of our society frylock Jul 2012 #143

Well the profits you pay ... GeorgeGist Jul 2012 #152

And exactly what are we entitled to since none of us produced much of what we own directly? dkf Jul 2012 #5

What belongs to me is anything that I have done through working. mia Jul 2012 #15

So no inheritances? treestar Jul 2012 #53

You earn what those who are wealthier than you choose to pay you. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #62

Aren't you virtuous. lapislzi Jul 2012 #97

Huh? arcane1 Jul 2012 #6

I'm tired. mia Jul 2012 #16

Oh Bullshit treestar Jul 2012 #49

Yeah. Let the poor starve. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #74

Yes, there are scammers. xmas74 Jul 2012 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2012 #94

YUP ... those hiding their money in off-shore accounts. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #102

Wow. The ultra-rich are the biggest scammers of all. Chorophyll Jul 2012 #105

I know 1 person scamming the system and whole lot more who aren't. You want to sacrifice all for uppityperson Jul 2012 #121

I'm a welfare case worker, and you couldn't be more wrong. arbusto_baboso Jul 2012 #123

Introduce me to this creature of hearsay. TalkingDog Jul 2012 #11

Could be unclear on the concept of work. mia Jul 2012 #17

It's not that they don't try treestar Jul 2012 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2012 #112

What percentage do you think that "don't even try"? uppityperson Jul 2012 #122

"I got mine, yer on yer own"? Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #19

I prefer mia Jul 2012 #21

And apparently how to make his own pole, too. Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #22

Great idea. mia Jul 2012 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2012 #113

Apparently poverty is cured by fish. Who knew? DevonRex Jul 2012 #135

What can I say, DevonRex. You have no pole and you have no fish, Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #141

Maybe If You Worked Less, That Would Create A Job for the Unemployed Yavin4 Jul 2012 #126

Got a modern equivalent of that? DevonRex Jul 2012 #134

Yes they should Hippo_Tron Jul 2012 #20

I believe that there are more than a few who game the system. mia Jul 2012 #24

I'll be sure and share your thoughts with my sister who is disabled proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #27

I don't know anyone with real disabilities who collect this money. mia Jul 2012 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jul 2012 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2012 #111

"I pass them on the way to my second job as they walk their dogs." SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #30

I'm talking about people who live in my condominium complex mia Jul 2012 #34

Oh I see, SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #35

It's a small condo - 9 units. mia Jul 2012 #39

So when you say "They" SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #40

Of course PETRUS Jul 2012 #37

Scammers at the top win the prize. mia Jul 2012 #41

Biggest scammers by far are corporate/govt cronies like Blackwater, Haliburton and hundreds of other ErikJ Jul 2012 #46

"That's why we need govt make work and training programs." mia Jul 2012 #72

Why are you even here at DU? rhiannon55 Jul 2012 #99

If they're in foreclosure and not paying condo fees for years, why haven't they been evicted? Hippo_Tron Jul 2012 #42

Condos have expenses that must be paid mia Jul 2012 #48

If people are living in your condo and not paying the fees, you and others in the condo JDPriestly Jul 2012 #65

Bully for you for owning a condo. Too bad you didn't pay any attention at all kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #77

What? MainlyLurking Jul 2012 #84

The poster in question is in a hysterical snit over people kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #101

Promote the general welfare MainlyLurking Jul 2012 #106

i think the majority position here is that mia is full of bullshit frylock Jul 2012 #144

Then foreclose on the bank or whomever holds title. The assoc. lien will be superior. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #129

Not all disabilities put one in a wheelchair. Flatulo Jul 2012 #63

Thank you for your post. mia Jul 2012 #70

I'm sure you sincerely believe that some of your neighbors are gaming the system, Flatulo Jul 2012 #80

And you know that because you Ms. Toad Jul 2012 #138

Powerful post SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #75

Thanks. I still consider myself lucky. I Look at these poor kids coming back Flatulo Jul 2012 #79

Thank you for wishing my elderly great-grandparents had starved, kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author LaurenG Jul 2012 #95

This post was alerted on. The jury voted 4/2 to let it stand. ohiosmith Jul 2012 #119

I'm glad it was left to stand. Cerridwen Jul 2012 #120

I am with you, largely. NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #146

Everyone on social security, everyone getting vets benefits are "pathological liars", don't want to uppityperson Jul 2012 #125

can this same logic MrDiaz Jul 2012 #81

Well lets see here Hippo_Tron Jul 2012 #133

how you got that from this post is beyond me ibegurpard Jul 2012 #33

The infrastructure is provided for all. mia Jul 2012 #54

NO one chooses that treestar Jul 2012 #52

There aren't two types of people. mia Jul 2012 #58

BS you have stated in terms of people who pay in and people who take out treestar Jul 2012 #60

I don't agree with your interpretation. mia Jul 2012 #64

I agree with you LiberalAndProud Jul 2012 #128

well done!!! Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #7

Thank you. :) Cerridwen Jul 2012 #8

Nice job! Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #18

Thanks, Ruby. n/t Cerridwen Jul 2012 #86

He conceived himself and gave birth to himself, too. Zalatix Jul 2012 #23

Yeah, who needs women anyway? They're just annoying and they always need something. calimary Jul 2012 #26

Awesome OP. Can we share it? freshwest Jul 2012 #28

Thank you and yes, please feel free to share. Cerridwen Jul 2012 #83

A fucking miracle. lonestarnot Jul 2012 #32

K&R awesome post! SunsetDreams Jul 2012 #36

You're very kind. Thank you. n/t Cerridwen Jul 2012 #87

brilliant Demonaut Jul 2012 #38

thanks Cerridwen Jul 2012 #88

I get it. Success is not possible without some degree of government involvement. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #43

As Hillary said, It takes a village Yeah Its Spin Jul 2012 #45

Ya know - I'm not sure Hillary was talking about becoming successful in business. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #47

bootstrapping schools ;) Yeah Its Spin Jul 2012 #51

Otay... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #55

Ok, the bootstrapping schools part first... Yeah Its Spin Jul 2012 #59

The class one is born into treestar Jul 2012 #56

I think people are reacting to a couple of things. PETRUS Jul 2012 #61

How do you define successful? JDPriestly Jul 2012 #68

Actually, if you'll read my OP rather than sticking on Cerridwen Jul 2012 #85

here's one definition of successful hfojvt Jul 2012 #98

I checked your edit and the video came up for me. (edit) Cerridwen Jul 2012 #100

Opportunity is what seperates those who make it, and those who don't. I know. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #104

Because there is no common definition for success - haele Jul 2012 #115

It's a good question, but a head start doesn't hurt. LiberalAndProud Jul 2012 #145

People that ask that question are rarely happy with the answer. JoeyT Jul 2012 #153

My personal observation FlaGranny Jul 2012 #154

Great Post Yeah Its Spin Jul 2012 #44

LOL Cerridwen Jul 2012 #89

Delicious! patrice Jul 2012 #57

Why, thank you. Cerridwen Jul 2012 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2012 #66

I'm honored. Thank you. :) n/t Cerridwen Jul 2012 #91

Applause! Wonderful. n/t susanna Jul 2012 #67

Thank you, susanna. n/t Cerridwen Jul 2012 #93

Individualism fails because families/communities are the building blocks of society, not individuals reformist2 Jul 2012 #69

While I agree with the general idea of your post, as a kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #78

I didn't think anybody knew of my existence. K&R. Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #107

OK, so what has this guy contributed to society that he will be allowed to live Blue Meany Jul 2012 #114

A mythological existence that has been used to Cerridwen Jul 2012 #116

Is Obama a Self-Made Man? One_Life_To_Give Jul 2012 #127

"Self made doesn't require that every last detail was done solely by oneself." Cerridwen Jul 2012 #130

Just pointing out a broad brush One_Life_To_Give Jul 2012 #131

I think "self-made" is a delusional myth. Cerridwen Jul 2012 #132

makes you wonder how man kind ever survived without government. crazyjoe Jul 2012 #136

And parents and teachers and mentors and Cerridwen Jul 2012 #137

The larger the society FlaGranny Jul 2012 #156

Great post.. riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #139

You have just paid me the highest compliment. Cerridwen Jul 2012 #140

You are very welcome riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #142

Tell us more... Godot51 Jul 2012 #148

Loved this.No one is self made.Either daddy left a bundle, you ripped people off, or have hard worke judesedit Jul 2012 #149

Kick, rec, and my pathetic attempt at saying the same thing the other day rocktivity Jul 2012 #150

SUPERB!!! BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2012 #151

An absolutely fabulous post malaise Jul 2012 #155

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