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susanna

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49. Thanks for your response, EC...

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:07 AM

Jul 2012

I guess this is what bothers me: I'm an old coot and am used to things going one way, and when they don't, well, that concerns me.

I am trying to keep an open mind, but this is really disturbing on a fundamental level. Things that once were not normal now are...one thing I didn't mention in my post is that I think we might have some kudzu-type vine in Detroit, very close to me (I know kudzu intimately, my family is originally from the south). It's taking over everything. Now, it may be a native Michigan vine with a similar leaf pattern, but I've never seen Michigan-varietal vines grow this fast. In all fairness, the afflicted area is not well-kept, but still, I wonder...

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Farenheit 104 (40 degrees C). This is a number everyone should know. [View all] FourScore Jul 2012 OP

Famine. We still aren't linking the heat to famine. aquart Jul 2012 #1

I've been warning people for years that ultimately that is what will happen - kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #4

Wish it were funny, could live with that! turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #2

you got an 'A' in Astronomy? eShirl Jul 2012 #18

YEP! turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #20

That doesn't mean that s/he doesn't understand why, just that s/he had not observed it before. patrice Jul 2012 #26

in grad school (in Tucson) learned a little about this... CreekDog Jul 2012 #3

I gave up trying to grow sweet corn here in the Valley kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #5

The San Fernando Valley, right? nilram Jul 2012 #12

Yep, the SF Valley. Hottest place in LA County, including kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #22

So glad to hear this as a gardener... susanna Jul 2012 #16

take a look at the idea of "heat units" and also note the minimum temperatures CreekDog Jul 2012 #17

This is fascinating insight, CreekDog. susanna Jul 2012 #50

I'm in WI EC Jul 2012 #29

Thanks for your response, EC... susanna Jul 2012 #49

That would be bad EC Jul 2012 #53

Re: birds/insects... susanna Jul 2012 #55

I hear ya on the new plants surviving winters up here NickB79 Jul 2012 #45

Weird, isn't it? susanna Jul 2012 #51

Here in upper Ohio NEOhiodemocrat Jul 2012 #52

Thanks, NEOhiodemocrat. susanna Jul 2012 #54

About those tomatoes dixiegrrrrl Jul 2012 #32

My Roma tomatoes are going crazy this year. I grew from seed. alfredo Jul 2012 #34

Meanwhile the teaparty held a "book burning" for ACA flamingdem Jul 2012 #6

A visual representation alfredo Jul 2012 #7

wow flamingdem Jul 2012 #8

Even worse if it was steel. alfredo Jul 2012 #9

When we get there we'll know flamingdem Jul 2012 #11

Venus is an example of runaway global warming. alfredo Jul 2012 #24

Venus does have Global Warming issues flamingdem Jul 2012 #25

So we are limited by the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere. It will get hot, but not Venus hot. alfredo Jul 2012 #33

I saw a bunch of those on Reddit... joshcryer Jul 2012 #13

Actually, emmadoggy Jul 2012 #46

You are of course correct. :) joshcryer Jul 2012 #48

Holy crap! SunSeeker Jul 2012 #14

Whoa! Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #28

We are the children of corn. We have become dependent on corn and soy. alfredo Jul 2012 #10

I found this recent article about the Grain Belt and how it will "fare better": joshcryer Jul 2012 #15

no one near the great lakes is going to let that happen... n/t nebenaube Jul 2012 #31

If the Ogallala Aquifer is depeleated they'd have no choice. joshcryer Jul 2012 #38

Do you hear the sound of hoofbeats growing louder? Sounds like there are four riders. GliderGuider Jul 2012 #19

That is not encouraging... truebrit71 Jul 2012 #21

I wonder if building greenhouses felix_numinous Jul 2012 #23

Anyone have an historical heat map going back a few million years? Just curious. leveymg Jul 2012 #27

Here it is for the last 400,000 years. Current cyclical highs look more or less normal. leveymg Jul 2012 #30

It looks like the peak is lasting longer. alfredo Jul 2012 #35

Uhmm . . . very similar to my eye. Here's the data sources for these graphs: leveymg Jul 2012 #36

The human race is due for a shakeout. Weather related world wide famine alfredo Jul 2012 #40

G-d, I hope you're wrong. People did awful things to each other there before they starved to death. leveymg Jul 2012 #41

There's shakeouts in other animal populations when too many are in one region. You see alfredo Jul 2012 #43

we sold our corn surplus to China lovuian Jul 2012 #37

I wonder when the right starts getting the blame for stopping any attempt to avoid this. Kablooie Jul 2012 #39

As per exxon-MOB-ill CEO, we'll just... adapt!! Amonester Jul 2012 #42

Open a porn site online. alfredo Jul 2012 #44

Some dumbass on another site, emmadoggy Jul 2012 #47