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In reply to the discussion: Do you support banning semi-autos? Yes or no. [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)115. Most gun owners might comply with draconian gun laws if passed. ...
However a significant percentage would follow Thomas Jefferson's advise:
"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/Thomas.Jefferson.Quote.EFEC
Now obviously I am far to old and lack the testosterone and the health to play such games. However I am familiar with those in the gun culture and while most have fantasies of fighting in a revolution to preserve their Seocnd Amendment rights there are a good number of people who have the ability and means to do so. A good number have gained the training and experience in the best military in the world and because they have combat experience they will present a significant opposition.
Fortunately draconian gun control is simply a pipe dream in a nation with as many gun owners as ours. It can work in other nations with a much lower level of gun ownership. Consequently the chances of ever passing a law that bans and confiscates most firearms will never pass in Congress (at least not in the foreseeable future). What the push for such laws will do is weaken the Democratic Party and threaten the progress we have made in the last decade. it is quite possible that Hillary would be sitting in the Oval Office today if she had not mentioned that Australian style gun control (confiscation plus a buy back) was an idea worth considering. Now we have Trump as our president and a Congress controlled by Republicans.
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YES !!! - The ones designed to kill massive amounts of humans in a short time
uponit7771
Oct 2017
#15
That's not an unreasonable idea but you can bet the NRA will provide such insurance ...
spin
Oct 2017
#93
How many people would be interested in being a cop if they didn't have some means ...
spin
Oct 2017
#103
Word. Australia. Did exactly what you say is impossible. NRA talking point melted.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2017
#38
Well that's just not true, Mexico & Jamaica both have stringent gun laws...
EX500rider
Oct 2017
#200
Bury them deep. Way less likely to be used! Some arguments are just not worthy.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2017
#62
Mass murders after...zero, am I right? Mission accomplished. Rather easily.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2017
#81
'NRA talking point', like 'fake news', is a thought terminating cliche...
friendly_iconoclast
Oct 2017
#184
In 2013 Senator Feinstein proposed a bill banning bump stocks and similar modifications after the
still_one
Oct 2017
#78
More inclined to support gun and ammo limits; tough restrictions on public toting; background checks
Hoyt
Oct 2017
#54
Passive voice is always a give away. Inane NRA talking points, sugar coated.
Fred Sanders
Oct 2017
#74
Good to see another gunner who admits gun-fanciers are law-abiding only if it suits them.
Hoyt
Oct 2017
#104
Thomas Jefferson also talked about liberty and freedom, but went home to beat and rape his slaves.
Hoyt
Oct 2017
#122
Gun control was also used in an attempt to make sure blacks didn't own firearms. ...
spin
Oct 2017
#127
We need to insure that all honest, sane and responsible citizens regardless of ...
spin
Oct 2017
#130
No, Clarendon. I think white wingers are a bigger threat, but I don't think anyone should have
Hoyt
Oct 2017
#168
Thanks much. I could try to blame that on my spell check but I will accept the blame. (n/t)
spin
Oct 2017
#147
When I see the results of mass killings and listen to the proposed ideas for gun
wasupaloopa
Oct 2017
#128
I am right. Every one of the nearly 500 injured in Las Vegas last week was
wasupaloopa
Oct 2017
#205
Doesn't change the fact that 93 countries are in fact more dangerous then the US...
EX500rider
Oct 2017
#206
Yes. If they can go hell-bent after opioids: "Epidemic! People are DYING!" Get it, "NOs"?
WinkyDink
Oct 2017
#137
We can ban smoking. We can ban opioids. We can ban Red Dye #2 and DDT. But GOD FORBID we ban killing
WinkyDink
Oct 2017
#143
Nope. "Ideas" like this do more to sell guns than the NRA ever could. n/t
Decoy of Fenris
Oct 2017
#146
no reason for civilians to own assault rifles as for semi-automatic pistols
beachbum bob
Oct 2017
#157
Another one of those "Molon Labe" types. You saying gunners aren't as law-abiding as they have been
Hoyt
Oct 2017
#202