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genxlib

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2. These companies work like insurance
Fri Oct 6, 2017, 03:44 PM
Oct 2017

They sign up contracts over a wide area working under the assumption that only a small fraction of the contracts will be initiated at any given time. No one wants to pay rates high enough to have these resources sitting around. The only way to keep the rates down is to spread the cost of capabilities around to a lot of potential disaster areas.

The nature of Irma screwed that up by impacting the entire state.

When all their contracts got initiated at one time, they were overwhelmed.

In the best case, they should have ramped up to meet their obligations. At the very least, they should have met their obligations for price with only time implications due to demand.

But it sounds as if they have been trying to re-negotiate on the fly. Even worse, they seem to be prioritizing the clients willing to pay premium rates.

I am sympathetic to the logistical challenges but these people stand to make a lot of money. they have no right to make more by dodging their responsibilities. If anything, they should be paid less for the delayed removal that did not meet their contractual obligations. Or even better, the Cities should proceed without them and sue them for the cost+premium.

One thing I do know. My City did better than most. I don't think it is a coincidence that my City staffs their own waste management division with City employees. When the time came to do clearing, it took them some time to catch up but they had no other obligations to outside clients. That is the thing about privatizing city services. You lose a lot of control (aside from the other downsides)

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Hand's down it has lost its sense of the broad community. Baitball Blogger Oct 2017 #4
Tribal is an excellent word! Throck Oct 2017 #11
There has to be someplace to take the stuff. Mariana Oct 2017 #6
Any contribution to the overall effort is a step in the right direction. Throck Oct 2017 #12
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Within a block of house in either direction GusBob Oct 2017 #19
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Like "The Leader" says: MyOwnPeace Oct 2017 #29
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I have lived what you're tallking about. Baitball Blogger Oct 2017 #33
Sorry about all that. We are talking about very different things, though, Hortensis Oct 2017 #37
Hate to tell you that all those networks Baitball Blogger Oct 2017 #38
How terrible for you. Take care. Hortensis Oct 2017 #39
Uh pal, that's what happened here GusBob Oct 2017 #10
Not so here. Baitball Blogger Oct 2017 #20
I don't reckon Ms Bondi can help ya there. Nt GusBob Oct 2017 #25
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Isn't it funny how some people just make shit up Mariana Oct 2017 #21
Yep I was just thinking the same thing GusBob Oct 2017 #23
These companies work like insurance genxlib Oct 2017 #2
The cities and the county here has it's own environmental cleanup and utility. Blue_true Oct 2017 #34
Also. It hurts to say this genxlib Oct 2017 #3
Hey, hurricane debris pick-up affects Republicans too. Baitball Blogger Oct 2017 #5
Because the media has exposed them malaise Oct 2017 #8
I think she has her eye on the Governor chair. Blue_true Oct 2017 #35
as I stare at the piles on the easement onethatcares Oct 2017 #9
Generally speaking genxlib Oct 2017 #14
Florida has a termite and bug problem. Baitball Blogger Oct 2017 #15
Depends upon how the mulch is made. Blue_true Oct 2017 #36
I'm sure they are doing that. Mariana Oct 2017 #16
Florida and privatization d_r Oct 2017 #13
Yeah our city got left in the lurch by the contractor GusBob Oct 2017 #18
It doesn't just look bad. Mariana Oct 2017 #24
There's that and a more serious risk GusBob Oct 2017 #28
Look at Pinellas County. Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #32
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