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JoeStuckInOH

(544 posts)
18. You're missing what I'm saying...
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:56 PM
Oct 2017

This isn't about which is better or worse. It's about the ability to make decisions when needed.

Its a safe assumption that EVERY autonomous vehicle will have the ability to quickly override autonomous function if human intervention is necessary. There could be an accident ahead requiring unusual detour, unpaved/dirt roads, irregular traffic pattern due to recent construction, no lines on the road... there's too many unpredictabilities on the road to expect autonomous vehicles to be able to navigate 100% of all situations - that's just unrealistic.

A person texting has 100% of their mental faculties intact. They are fully cognizant and they know they shouldn't text and drive... so they let the autonomous control take over while they are being distracted. And when necessary, a person texting can put the cell phone down and take over control of the car in a situation requiring override to the autonomous control.

Whereas intoxicated people make poor choices, in general. Someone with intoxicated/impaired judgment may not even realize they are impaired and should let the car drive itself... or perhaps there is a situation they feel human intervention is necessary and, with impaired judgment, disable autonomous control. An intoxicated person cannot become not drunk/high by choice. Only time can reduce impairment, not willpower.

It's simple... Keep the laws as is:
1) No texting and driving. If they're caught manually driving while texting then they are liable for breaking the law. But someone texting is not driving if the computer is driving... so that is fine.

2) No sitting in the drivers set of a running motor vehicle while intoxicated. Because there might be a need to operate that thing yourself and there's no guarantee the autonomous vehicle won't need intervention/assistance.




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If you carry any responsibility Lithos Oct 2017 #1
BUT, if the car is completely autonomous... Dave Starsky Oct 2017 #4
I'm not either BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #11
I don't ever want one that a human can't override. Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #13
No. AngryAmish Oct 2017 #2
If an autonomous car crashes sarisataka Oct 2017 #3
It's Barack Obama's fault, of course. Dave Starsky Oct 2017 #6
Ah, the First Law of Trumpbotics n/t NotASurfer Oct 2017 #21
Yes. No vehicle will ever be fully autonomous without monitoring. NutmegYankee Oct 2017 #5
"ever"??? You do not realize how technology works. nt USALiberal Oct 2017 #29
Automated cars are going to be a new frontier in tort and criminal law. Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #7
Technology is always ahead of the law. If theres anyway that the driver could alter the path NightWatcher Oct 2017 #8
Only if people reading, texting, etc. also get charged with criminal conduct as well. Coventina Oct 2017 #9
Being Drunk or Hiigh is WAY different than unsafe distracted behaviors. JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #15
Nope. According to the data, texting is worse than being drunk. Coventina Oct 2017 #17
You're missing what I'm saying... JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #18
If ANYONE in the driver's seat is incapacitated in ANY way, they should be Coventina Oct 2017 #20
What was the law in the 19th century about riding horses drunk? DBoon Oct 2017 #10
Nowadays you can be charged with DUI or equivalent Mariana Oct 2017 #12
I think we now generalize auto based DUI laws to other forms of transportation DBoon Oct 2017 #22
I would guess not. Mariana Oct 2017 #24
Yes. Many options exist to help drunkards... Uber, Lyft, Taxis, and friends. JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #14
they say its like taking a cab so it should be like taking a cab dembotoz Oct 2017 #16
I agree. Mariana Oct 2017 #25
Drunk drivers should always be charged with a DUI. Iggo Oct 2017 #19
The fault would lie with the maker of the SD car gyroscope Oct 2017 #23
yes because the "driver" has the ability to overrule the computer and he/she should be sober enough karynnj Oct 2017 #26
NO. democratisphere Oct 2017 #27
There are no fully autonomous vehicles! longship Oct 2017 #28
Are there any rules about people who are drunk out of their Doreen Oct 2017 #30
Only if the automation could be disabled by the "driver". no_hypocrisy Oct 2017 #31
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