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22. That's so very very sad. I am sorry & I think identifying the SIMILARITY in what it was that

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 12:21 PM

Jul 2012

did that to your relatives, with the same thing that does the same thing in a different manner on another scale, honors your relatives by telling the truths about this hideous thing that reaches throughout time and across borders.

And, as someone with a family member, a young man, who died because he could not get appropriate care, I have first hand knowledge of how what killed him was the same thing as what killed your family members too. I also don't imagine that you wish to imply that your family members suffering is somehow more ___________ than other human suffering. Different? yes, but IMHO, not ESSENTIALLY different.

There are also different kinds of deaths, not all of them physical, so we might speculate that these CRC death camps could be involved in other forms of oppression that, while not killing a person's body, can result in the loss of their own unique humanity.

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Holy Crap - Mitt runs a death camp for troubled teens! [View all] Scuba Jul 2012 OP

Drip, drip, drip....... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #1

I've read other articles about teen treatment centers get the red out Jul 2012 #2

A young friend of ours came out a mess Patiod Jul 2012 #8

I've had students come back seriously traumatized. knitter4democracy Jul 2012 #16

I worked for a residential treatment center, a REAL one for kids in the 80s. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #26

They are, and under relentless attack by privatizers, who want to profit to the max, until dead. freshwest Jul 2012 #87

A lot of gay kids get sent to these4 places, too obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #75

Very red state get the red out Jul 2012 #77

Romney is hip-deep in the Youth Abuse industry Patiod Jul 2012 #3

This article has been VERY helpful for me. I can avoid the CRC HelpmeHelp Jul 2012 #4

Good luck with your son. And do be very, very careful. nolabear Jul 2012 #9

This seems like a good time to remind everyone that Romney also funded "pray-away-the-gay" "therapy" backscatter712 Jul 2012 #5

1++++++++++++ patrice Jul 2012 #12

Agreed. Though that would NOT* fall under the issue of Mental/Behavioral Health parity in insurance patrice Jul 2012 #14

The "successfull" Bain business model in action. nt patrice Jul 2012 #6

Mental & Behavioral Health PARITY in the PPACA N-O-W! nt patrice Jul 2012 #7

He said, "Corporations are people, my friend." He just forgot to mention they're murderous people nt Bossy Monkey Jul 2012 #10

Poorly paid low-level workers AFRAID to "buck the system" and make a decision about care: patrice Jul 2012 #11

Thanks for adding. I very relunctantly removed this para to comply with the limit of four. Scuba Jul 2012 #15

You are welcome. I'm sensitive to these issues, because of family experiences with patrice Jul 2012 #17

OMG Dalai_1 Jul 2012 #13

K&R. tosh Jul 2012 #18

Your tittle is a tad over the top nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #19

A tad perhaps. I debated, but in the end I'm OK with it. Scuba Jul 2012 #20

Yeah, but there is a difference, big difference, at policy level nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #21

Film recommendation. proverbialwisdom Jul 2012 #90

I think intent is a factor 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #27

I never implied that Mitt's "death camp" was the equivalent of any other. Scuba Jul 2012 #29

Death camp has a pretty well understood meaning 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #32

This is from Websters nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #34

This is also from Websters... Scuba Jul 2012 #36

Yes, you engaged in it, and I called you on it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #40

It's not 100% the same. Neither is it 100% different as you are trying to make it. There ARE patrice Jul 2012 #44

( WARMING GRAPHIC) So tell me, what exactly is similar nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #54

Torture camp for sure get the red out Jul 2012 #43

That's so very very sad. I am sorry & I think identifying the SIMILARITY in what it was that patrice Jul 2012 #22

The camps are horrible on their own nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #30

I agree. If saying the IRS is like the gestapo is wrong then so is the term 'death camp'. randome Jul 2012 #50

Close Enough For Government Work, Ma'am: Romney Profits From Teen Murder! The Magistrate Jul 2012 #23

No, not close enough for government work nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #28

To Profit From It, Ma'am, Is Sufficient For The Attack Line The Magistrate Jul 2012 #33

Again go argue with Websters nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #35

Language lives, books are only its calcifications. & Re getting money from a DEAD client, I hope patrice Jul 2012 #41

Familiar, this is the worst kind of hyperbole I have seen on DU nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #45

Please respond to the questions. :-) patrice Jul 2012 #47

It is quite simple nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #51

Nadine, I respect your sensibilities and don't want to offend. Sincere question though... Scuba Jul 2012 #81

Actually inquisition is used in that way nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #82

So it's OK for "inquisition" to be used as hyperbole, but not "death camp"? Scuba Jul 2012 #83

read the theseaurus definition AGAIN nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #84

Reasonable people can disagree. Scuba Jul 2012 #85

Yup, problem is I gave you both dictionary nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #86

Can you imagine that some might regard your position as hyperbolic? TTE, "NO comparison whatsoever!" patrice Jul 2012 #48

You can call me all the names in the world nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #55

Why don't you answer my questions? Or just say you don't know or don't care? nt patrice Jul 2012 #58

What question, I did. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #60

I will not be distracted by your mischaracterization of my position. What question? My question abou patrice Jul 2012 #65

Yes, once again, carefully rereaad this nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #67

The crime matters for a million people BECAUSE it matters for one person and, if it doesn't patrice Jul 2012 #25

Again, the comparison is way over the top, nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #31

There are intentions and then there are intentions. The organic mechanisms that "intend" are not patrice Jul 2012 #38

Yes, and no, it is not a death camp nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #42

Your absolutist dependence upon a BOOK suggests autocratic intent. Correct me if I am wrong. nt patrice Jul 2012 #46

(WARNING GRAPHIC) You mean we should all abandon a dictionary for accepted definitions? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #53

Abandon? No, you're the one proposing FALSE-dichotomies here. I'm just saying don't mistake patrice Jul 2012 #57

The one engaging in a false dichotomy, and you are following nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #61

And I'll save you the trouble before you go there: You are going to need to point to where I said patrice Jul 2012 #62

Again, engage in more hyperbole nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #64

And you need to put them down and go out and discover that people everywhere have the same patrice Jul 2012 #69

Well when it comes to rights nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #71

I need to go exercise. Nice talking to you, . . . really. :-) Have a good day. patrice Jul 2012 #73

All I can think is, if we call these youth treatment centers 'Death Camps' then what Flatulo Jul 2012 #94

for the Ones who were killed it IS a death camp!! hue Jul 2012 #52

No it is not nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #56

I read an awful lot of posts on DU that strike me as pretty ridiculous, but Flatulo Jul 2012 #107

So where do you begin with this stuff? There are so many things outrageously wrong. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #24

This is the tip of the iceberg....these 'youth camps' are a major industry! LongTomH Jul 2012 #37

Yeah, but they are NOT death camps nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #63

Say that to their DEAD. Sheesh. :-| patrice Jul 2012 #66

So tell me, if I have a burger and I choke on it nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #68

wow. If you're not held in legally defined CONSTRAINTS & prevented from receiving or patrice Jul 2012 #70

Is this a war crime? nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #72

Nadine. Usually I like reading what you have to say, but right now, on this thread, Occulus Jul 2012 #102

Not my dead father nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #104

OK, I can agree that the phrase: "Death Camps" in the OP title is over the top! LongTomH Jul 2012 #74

That we should, problem is the nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #76

I'm usually not very strict in the language policing area, but in this case eridani Jul 2012 #96

Remember - corporations are people...... Smilo Jul 2012 #39

Same horrors all over again; from Bush/Cheney to Mitt Rmoney! Sociopaths/psychopaths!!! hue Jul 2012 #49

If this gets out it's over for Rmoney. Zalatix Jul 2012 #59

It's already "out." RT_Fanatic Jul 2012 #79

omg. Mitt's money has blood on it. Liberal_in_LA Jul 2012 #78

Six of one, half-dozen of another... Blue Owl Jul 2012 #80

Perfect example of why it's advantageous for CxOs . . . ProfessionalLeftist Jul 2012 #88

So 4 (or 7 years) after Romney left Bain Capital, hughee99 Jul 2012 #89

He owns it. Scuba Jul 2012 #91

Yes, but does he run it? hughee99 Jul 2012 #93

Sorry assed motherfucker! lonestarnot Jul 2012 #92

Wow have to agree with a lot of the replies, over to the top... progress2k12nbynd Jul 2012 #95

I care about the recs only in the sense that they draw further attention to Mitt's ... Scuba Jul 2012 #97

And some of us also care about the correct use of language nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #98

Language is a living organism. Trying to constrain it to serve one's own priorities is futile. Scuba Jul 2012 #99

And both the dictionary and thesaurus are not with you nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #100

And the other part of your living as a Virtual Dominatrix, I presume? Schema Thing Jul 2012 #101

Even for some of the topics here that's dragging this subthread in an especially dumb direction. nt Posteritatis Jul 2012 #103

Personal attack, uncalled for, nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #105

For profit sociopaths Initech Jul 2012 #106