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Lars39

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54. Might I suggest a rose as something totally neutral for the next staging.

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a little factoid. the crosses in lv [View all] mopinko Oct 2017 OP

I was wondering about them. femmocrat Oct 2017 #1

It's the standard offensive assumption DavidDvorkin Oct 2017 #2

It's the giver's offering, not an assumption about the "recipient." WinkyDink Oct 2017 #3

There is an implication and an advertising opportunity in the givers "offering" Merlot Oct 2017 #4

Had I been a victim, such an offering would be a direct insult to me and to my family Orrex Oct 2017 #5

And I thought I was cynical! Whew! I'm a lapsed Catholic, but if a Jewish person wants to pray for WinkyDink Oct 2017 #10

Anyone can pray for whoever they want. But keep me out of it. Orrex Oct 2017 #13

+1 DLevine Oct 2017 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #28

"..she simply can't comprehend how someone could live that way without being driven by fear.." chowder66 Oct 2017 #41

One of the victims, a local woman from Tewksbury, MA, was a Jehovah's Witness. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #18

How did he get holy hands from a simple stake? Did they use it length wise? snooper2 Oct 2017 #88

Maybe hands straight overhead? Orrex Oct 2017 #89

Or maybe it was like roast a pig style? One stick through both feet then through both hands snooper2 Oct 2017 #90

i dont think he means that at all. mopinko Oct 2017 #19

I expect that he does not, but he should be conscious of his choice of imagery Orrex Oct 2017 #21

aside from a tombstone, what other symbols are there? mopinko Oct 2017 #22

You've got to be kidding. Orrex Oct 2017 #24

the only one of your suggestions that is unambiguous, imho mopinko Oct 2017 #26

It would seem that any countable stand-in would suffice Orrex Oct 2017 #27

it has been used effectively. mopinko Oct 2017 #29

That was the one I was thinking of. Orrex Oct 2017 #30

How does a cross represent a dead person? Mariana Oct 2017 #44

No! No! No! Haven't you been reading? Orrex Oct 2017 #67

Here lunasun Oct 2017 #77

Agree rusty fender Oct 2017 #38

Fuck that. Iggo Oct 2017 #64

If it is the same person I think he was asked to remove these some place in Chicago lunasun Oct 2017 #76

It's blind, narrow-minded, and deeply offensive. DavidDvorkin Oct 2017 #48

Like a lot of the posts in this thread. nt Hekate Oct 2017 #61

Especially those petty, passive-aggressive ones Orrex Oct 2017 #69

BINGO! raven mad Oct 2017 #74

I agree. The crosses don't actually carry any message other than to promote Christianity. Towlie Oct 2017 #7

It is "supposed to" (aka, does) represent sacrifice. Do you mock yarmulkes, also? You know, those WinkyDink Oct 2017 #11

If it makes you feel any better, all religions are equally ridiculous to me. Orrex Oct 2017 #14

Right, all "equally worthless", to quote Sgt. Hartman. But the subject here is Christian crosses. Towlie Oct 2017 #17

Fine. IDC. I simply have my doubts as to whether you would also, here, in print, mock any other WinkyDink Oct 2017 #42

Your doubt is irrelevant, and frankly my response is fitted to the situation Orrex Oct 2017 #70

A Heart , small column for each , a flower (in this case forming a field ) , bird , butterfly lunasun Oct 2017 #79

The cross is supposed to represent sacrifice? Mariana Oct 2017 #45

I can appreciate the iconography NotASurfer Oct 2017 #6

That's fine, but the first priority must be to respect the victims and the survivors Orrex Oct 2017 #8

Understood n/t NotASurfer Oct 2017 #9

And YOU would know "the needs of the victims and the survivors" how, exactly? WinkyDink Oct 2017 #12

I don't, and neither do you, and neither does the proselytizer in the OP. That's the point. Orrex Oct 2017 #16

you are assuming. i dont think he is doing this out of christianity. mopinko Oct 2017 #20

He's using unambiguously Christian iconography Orrex Oct 2017 #23

it is ambiguous. as you can see from this thread. mopinko Oct 2017 #34

Right. Try this: Orrex Oct 2017 #36

The cross guy is a right wing Christian. DLevine Oct 2017 #46

Oh, wait a minute! Orrex Oct 2017 #49

You assume the victims and survivors share your opinion about the topic. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #43

That's twice you've tried to hang that lie on me Orrex Oct 2017 #50

Not the first time . His 501c charity is aware and claims everyone accepts the crosses lunasun Oct 2017 #80

Well, how about that! Orrex Oct 2017 #82

Reel this lunasun Oct 2017 #85

Golly! What a swell fella! Orrex Oct 2017 #86

Traditionally, I don't think most people have a problem with it Alea Oct 2017 #25

To all that want to make this thread about YOUR religious beliefs or lack thereof. democratisphere Oct 2017 #31

Of course it's not about me, but it's not about the victims, either. Orrex Oct 2017 #33

It appears to be all about your anti-Christian position; your intolerance of Christianity and it's democratisphere Oct 2017 #37

Well, think it through: Orrex Oct 2017 #39

Apparently no good deed goes unpunished at DU. This is how Arlington West was begun, btw... Hekate Oct 2017 #32

no kidding. mopinko Oct 2017 #35

Show me the good deed Orrex Oct 2017 #51

he has changed crosses when he found out people had other religions. mopinko Oct 2017 #53

I suppose that that's some passable damage control Orrex Oct 2017 #56

hey, i had no idea it was gonna be a shit storm. mopinko Oct 2017 #59

Mopinko, there are days when this place makes me sick. This is one of them. Hekate Oct 2017 #62

it's no wonder the trolls love it here. mopinko Oct 2017 #63

You still haven't shown the good deed Orrex Oct 2017 #68

from the pics i have seen of how the crosses grew into memorials, mopinko Oct 2017 #81

Accusing someone of "outrage" is an attempt at deflection Orrex Oct 2017 #83

Boo fucking hoo. Orrex Oct 2017 #65

Well, if you only wanted feel-good responses, you should have mentioned that in the OP Orrex Oct 2017 #71

All you want to do is fight. Nothing anyone has said in this thread has made a difference to that. Hekate Oct 2017 #60

I'm sure that it's easier for you to imagine it that way Orrex Oct 2017 #66

To answer your question, his religious orientation is Christian. DLevine Oct 2017 #40

my niece's comment mopinko Oct 2017 #47

Might I suggest a rose as something totally neutral for the next staging. Lars39 Oct 2017 #54

Probably more difficult to cut but certainly more appropriate. mnhtnbb Oct 2017 #57

That's excellent Orrex Oct 2017 #58

Weird hobby, but I appreciate the gesture Nevernose Oct 2017 #52

In a photo I saw, there was a large white Star of David marybourg Oct 2017 #55

Thats pretty cool. ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #72

Pretty awesome guy. raven mad Oct 2017 #73

Those damnably benign and inconsequential acts LanternWaste Oct 2017 #75

Of course, this deliberate act of proselytizing is neither benign nor inconsequential Orrex Oct 2017 #87

My thought greymattermom Oct 2017 #78

Cross displays are about Christianity. Mariana Oct 2017 #84