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TheFrenchRazor

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81. i agree 100%. nt

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Mon Oct 9, 2017, 04:07 PM

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The Horrible Side-Effect of the War on Opioid Addiction [View all] MineralMan Oct 2017 OP

You make an excellent point Va Lefty Oct 2017 #1

That's troubling. In the meantime, my wife's dentist MineralMan Oct 2017 #2

And for some procedures and some people, Advil isn't enough. Ilsa Oct 2017 #45

Did they put the shoulder back in the socket? pnwmom Oct 2017 #8

Yes but I was surprised they wouldn't give him a script Va Lefty Oct 2017 #12

Actually after the joint (shoulder) is put back, it is sore. TNNurse Oct 2017 #20

Sounds like you know more about it than me Va Lefty Oct 2017 #39

Mine was dislocated with three fractures. It still hurt after they put it back in socket. davsand Oct 2017 #42

You had fractures, that is a different situation TNNurse Oct 2017 #89

now you do loyalsister Oct 2017 #88

Yes, this is very important. potone Oct 2017 #3

Not everybody . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Oct 2017 #41

One serious misconception about Med MJ is that you are "stoned" all the time. davsand Oct 2017 #43

You must not know much... potone Oct 2017 #53

As opposed to opioids? stevenleser Oct 2017 #57

Even people suffering acute pain can't get the pain relief they need. Coventina Oct 2017 #4

OTOH, your severe and intractable pain was a clue. If they had simply addressed it with pnwmom Oct 2017 #9

True, but I don't understand why they couldn't be more sympathetic. Coventina Oct 2017 #10

There was no excuse for their lack of sympathy. I'm sorry you had to go through that! pnwmom Oct 2017 #15

My sis in law has terrible pain...arthritis...she used to take pain meds but now can't get Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #13

Your sis in law has a different problem -- not a staple left in after surgery. n/t pnwmom Oct 2017 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Maraya1969 Oct 2017 #22

Not at all. With the previous poster (the OP), I was pointing out that continuing pain meds pnwmom Oct 2017 #24

OK I get it now. I'll just delete my post OK? Maraya1969 Oct 2017 #25

It makes no difference. I fail to see why people should be denied medicine for pain because Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #71

I'm not saying that people with real pain should be denied pain medication. pnwmom Oct 2017 #72

They should do both. Mariana Oct 2017 #75

The only reason they discovered the staple was that they knew she shouldn't have continuing pain. pnwmom Oct 2017 #76

exactly, and quite often they won't/can't fix the problem OR give you pain relief; that is what TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #85

If they hadn't assumed she was LYING about the pain Mariana Oct 2017 #52

years ago my cancer ridden wife was prescibed some heavy duty pain killers...her mom told the doc dembotoz Oct 2017 #5

See, that's the thing right there. Ligyron Oct 2017 #7

sometimes a person just needs to be snowed dembotoz Oct 2017 #11

this, and throw in suicide. nt TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #34

See also: Prince. ehrnst Oct 2017 #6

A big who cares. People who abuse drugs are playing with fire...their problem. It is unfair to deny Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #14

FYI cagefreesoylentgreen Oct 2017 #117

He could have gotten drugs legally for his pain...celebrities can do this...unlike my sister in law Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #121

In my job Horse with no Name Oct 2017 #17

you said it. nt TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #33

My 79-year-old sister has unremitting pain in her lower back. Thirties Child Oct 2017 #18

i hope she has gotten relief; those hurdles are put there precisely so that many people will just gi TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #102

You nailed it. Thirties Child Oct 2017 #127

The Vetrans Administration is taking away pain meds from Veterans. pwb Oct 2017 #19

PWB, the shame is their voices are not being heard... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #37

They sure are. Ligyron Oct 2017 #47

It predates Trump, and is largely bipartisan, sadly. Crunchy Frog Oct 2017 #49

Some, maybe, but the DEA and CDC guidelines were amended in 2017. pwb Oct 2017 #62

Could you point me to a source for these guideline amendments? Crunchy Frog Oct 2017 #91

Happy to. Search cdc opiate guidelines. pwb Oct 2017 #92

Okay, I searched it extensively, adding 2017 to the search terms Crunchy Frog Oct 2017 #96

Sure, search V A opiate use and marijuana. pwb Oct 2017 #123

Okay, so it's the VA rather than the CDC. Crunchy Frog Oct 2017 #124

The v a following cdc and DEA guidelines. pwb Oct 2017 #125

Link? Crunchy Frog Oct 2017 #126

I have tried to guide you but you need to look yourself. pwb Oct 2017 #128

I did look myself. Crunchy Frog Oct 2017 #129

O k. pwb Oct 2017 #130

I use google, cdc opiate rules 2017 pwb Oct 2017 #131

I've found the CDC guidelines. Crunchy Frog Oct 2017 #132

Here is the review that I left on Google and FB for a pharmacy I went to last week Maraya1969 Oct 2017 #21

I know that pharmacy chains are connected, but I've never heard that different chains pnwmom Oct 2017 #26

I use a small pharmacy that is not a chain. And yes all your drug purchased are put in a data Maraya1969 Oct 2017 #55

i hear you; this is total BS. let the anti-opiate fanatics pay the bills of people whom they would d TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #31

Very complicated issue thbobby Oct 2017 #23

re your last sentence: let that pain go on literally non-stop for years, and then get back to us. TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #30

I do not understand you thbobby Oct 2017 #32

I think you should be able to access free drug counseling if you need to take opiate pills Maraya1969 Oct 2017 #56

I have been saying this to friends since this started. redstatebluegirl Oct 2017 #27

I can't imagine how horrible it would be to be in such unrelenting pain and not being able to get smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #28

word; i am shocked at the callousness of people who smugly tell severe chronic pain sufferers to jus TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #29

I don't tell my patients anything in a smug manner. Aristus Oct 2017 #51

I have been to physical therapy at least 8 times, I use heat, I have done holistic Maraya1969 Oct 2017 #58

doesn't matter how diplomatic you are, the result is the same; i hope you know that. many of us TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #60

As I'm sure you're aware, opioid medications cause tolerance. Aristus Oct 2017 #68

i'll leave it at this: there are worse things than "tolerance"/addiction. if you don't know this, yo TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #80

I tend to get the "You should not be in the medical profession" most often from Aristus Oct 2017 #83

yeah, i am a life-long non-drinker, non-smoker, vegetarian, non-drug user, athlete, etc., TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #86

Your gross and undeserved insults to a poster you don't know former9thward Oct 2017 #100

really? said poster call me a "drug seeker;" i'm sorry if i didn't take that very well. i'm guessin TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #104

And a good day to you too! former9thward Oct 2017 #109

And none of this shit is going to do a damn thing about the addicts n2doc Oct 2017 #35

this too. as usual. nt TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #106

They keep trying to find a 'one response for all' solution Maeve Oct 2017 #36

we have a family member barbtries Oct 2017 #38

Amen, MineralMan catbyte Oct 2017 #40

word. nt TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #46

Cannabis butter/oil is a great substitute. theaocp Oct 2017 #44

unfortunately, most of us live in states where cannabis is illegal, so that is not an option. nt TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #101

I'm one of those in chronic pain. WhiteTara Oct 2017 #48

I am sitting here severely under-medicated because of the pressure on doctors Lucinda Oct 2017 #50

Ppl can always numb pain with alcohol Nevernose Oct 2017 #54

it's insane, but i guarantee that people have had to do that. i have, even though alcohol makes me i TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #61

A lot of people still like to pretend Mariana Oct 2017 #67

Good OP MineralMan airplaneman Oct 2017 #59

I know such a woman. no_hypocrisy Oct 2017 #63

i hear you; the pain itself often has multiple negative health effects - reduced mobility, depressio TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #98

I would think the drug companies would fight these crack downs. Man_Bear_Pig Oct 2017 #64

When my hips and femurs were disintegrating, MoonRiver Oct 2017 #65

People who suffer from pain and their advocates warned about this for a long time aikoaiko Oct 2017 #66

oh, quit yer whining, you druggie. i'm sorry, of course that was sarcasm; a lot of people really TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #110

My mother in law, now 80, was one of the last people in America to contract Polio. NNadir Oct 2017 #69

My daughter is one of those chronic pain patients. What she williesgirl Oct 2017 #70

Sure is something unique about Americans, have more pain than EVERYONE ELSE in the World snooper2 Oct 2017 #73

Or, the rest of the world's population suffers more in silence. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #84

No evidence of that at all. former9thward Oct 2017 #103

Hydrocodone isn't prescribed outside the United States, so that's really disingenuous. Crunchy Frog Oct 2017 #93

We are also older as a society (our baby boom was earlier) Sgent Oct 2017 #116

More gunshot injuries. n/t Crunchy Frog Oct 2017 #118

so because some people abuse drugs, then everyone else can just suffer until they die? is that what TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #119

I deal with being treated as a criminal every month! DVRacer Oct 2017 #74

As adults over the age of 21 we ought to be able to buy pain pills. iscooterliberally Oct 2017 #77

I see your point, but know that such a thing is not MineralMan Oct 2017 #78

I agree that self-prescription isn't going to happen. iscooterliberally Oct 2017 #79

I think there should be prescriptions for recreational drug use Major Nikon Oct 2017 #97

i agree 100%. nt TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #81

I live with chronic pain lovemydogs Oct 2017 #82

what?? you mean you haven't upped your dose every day, turned to a life of crime, and become a menac TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #87

Most people who take these meds are like you. Mariana Oct 2017 #122

I think "addiction" is not well understood loyalsister Oct 2017 #90

Physical dependency isn't even the same thing as addiction. Crunchy Frog Oct 2017 #94

That's what I was getting at loyalsister Oct 2017 #95

Physical dependence is more inclusive Major Nikon Oct 2017 #99

i think those classifications are highly debatable; the bottom line is that it really doesn't matter TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #105

I would go one step farther in that people should be allowed full control over their own bag of meat Major Nikon Oct 2017 #107

not sure what you mean by meat, but i probably agree. nt TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #111

You aren't truly free if you can't do what you want with your own body Major Nikon Oct 2017 #114

agreed; there are far too many people who don't know how to mind their own business. nt TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #120

I'm one of them people. ghostsinthemachine Oct 2017 #108

but, but, aren't you afraid you'll get addicted?? i'm sure you're more afraid of dying in extreme pa TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #112

Drug addiction is a medical problem WinstonSmith00 Oct 2017 #113

Legalise all drugs. Addiction is about pain, not drugs... Locut0s Oct 2017 #115

I'm strongly convinced that additional paperwork isn't excess. Jeffereybuckley Apr 2019 #133

You mean like prohibition, where more alcohol was used than before or after? Ironically... marble falls Apr 2019 #134

welcome to DU gopiscrap Apr 2019 #135