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kcr

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89. It's not about respecting those who have.

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 02:33 AM

Oct 2017

It's about the implication that Harvey Weinstein is somehow our side's responsibility. The RWers are smearing Hillary with that implication and it's sheer hypocrisy because none of them spoke out about Trump.

The truth is behavior like this isn't partisan. Trumpian/Weinsteinian behavior is not something that either side owns exclusively. It exists because it is embedded in our culture. For anyone to claim that any public figure is obligated to speak out against them for partisan reasons is false. In fact, there are some public figures doing so that are blatantly hypocritical, especially in Hollywood. If they aren't owning up to and apologizing for their own behavior, then their speaking out rings false. Much of it rings hollow to me. Many who pay attention know that this is nothing new, and certainly nothing rare, and for so many to pretend they are shocked at these revelations is ridiculous.

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Open Letter to CNN (Lemon and Burnett) [View all] NanceGreggs Oct 2017 OP

I harrumph in agreement! peequod Oct 2017 #1

No shit world wide wally Oct 2017 #2

So well said and so undeniably Blue_Roses Oct 2017 #3

ditto onetexan Oct 2017 #8

+++++++++++ Agreee and in my opinion CNN reporting/lack there of is one of reason for the orange iluvtennis Oct 2017 #23

Ditto! BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #4

I am cheering and clapping pandr32 Oct 2017 #5

Well done, Nance. chillfactor Oct 2017 #6

shared on my facebook wall with website link trueblue2007 Oct 2017 #7

Well said! burrowowl Oct 2017 #9

Excellent Nancy. CNN was right out there normalizing the racist, bigoted, and sexist view point, still_one Oct 2017 #10

Thank You OP for saying this ... LenaBaby61 Oct 2017 #11

"As disgusting as Weinsteins behaviour is, it does not obligate anyone to comment on it" oberliner Oct 2017 #12

So who IS obligated to comment on it? Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2017 #20

Everyone oberliner Oct 2017 #28

I agree that the behavior should be called out whenever and wherever it occurs Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2017 #38

Many folks look up to Hillary Clinton oberliner Oct 2017 #43

She did make a statement. ehrnst Oct 2017 #56

Yes, exactly oberliner Oct 2017 #58

What exactly obligates HRC and the Obamas? ehrnst Oct 2017 #60

They are role models oberliner Oct 2017 #62

And Jimmy Carter isn't? ehrnst Oct 2017 #65

They are not in any office for crying out loud treestar Oct 2017 #67

Are you also waiting for Jimmy Carter to make a statement? Al Gore? John Kerry? ehrnst Oct 2017 #57

I support every prominent Democrat who has spoken out on this subject oberliner Oct 2017 #59

But are they "obligated" to? And if not, why the Obamas and HRC? (nt) ehrnst Oct 2017 #61

See my answer above oberliner Oct 2017 #63

But that doesn't explain why you think others like Carter, Gore, etc. ehrnst Oct 2017 #64

I think the word "obligated" is too strong LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #73

Then wouldn't that apply to Tom Perez, Bernie Sanders and Ben Ray Lujan ehrnst Oct 2017 #74

Have you taken to task every seated politician for not condemning Weinstein? That aside.... George II Oct 2017 #42

No, but I respect those who have done so oberliner Oct 2017 #46

It's not about respecting those who have. kcr Oct 2017 #89

Harvey Weinstein is our side's responsibility oberliner Oct 2017 #90

Like hell he is. I'm sorry, but there is simply no connection. kcr Oct 2017 #92

There is no greater responsibility for the Democratic Party oberliner Oct 2017 #93

It's your definition of responsibility that's the issue. kcr Oct 2017 #94

Our side should be speaking out against the exploitation of women every day oberliner Oct 2017 #97

Strawman alert. No one is saying they shouldn't. kcr Oct 2017 #98

"no greater responsibility than to address the systemic oppression of women" ehrnst Oct 2017 #96

"Our side" is tasked with eradicating what men in great power do to get sex? This year? ehrnst Oct 2017 #95

Yeah, uh huh Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #52

Agree completely. gademocrat7 Oct 2017 #13

Follow the money thbobby Oct 2017 #14

Thanks for pointing out chervilant Oct 2017 #51

K&R... spanone Oct 2017 #15

K & f'ing R! mcar Oct 2017 #16

NanceGreggs you are a treasure. i have been following you for a long time. Never stop! coolsandy Oct 2017 #17

Bravo ! seta1950 Oct 2017 #18

Excellent letter. Incidentally, first thing this morning CNN started in again... George II Oct 2017 #19

That's what I keep asking! LittleGirl Oct 2017 #21

CNN should post Groper Don the Con's thoughts on Roger Ailes malaise Oct 2017 #22

Well said, Nance. mnhtnbb Oct 2017 #24

K&R stonecutter357 Oct 2017 #25

So eloquently expressed and on target at some of what Ted Enoki33 Oct 2017 #26

If they are concerned about silence Sanity Claws Oct 2017 #27

"Whatboutism" oberliner Oct 2017 #29

Yes but this thread is about Sanity Claws Oct 2017 #30

I respectfully disagree with that assessment oberliner Oct 2017 #39

The sexual harassment and degradation of women.. CatMor Oct 2017 #32

Agreed oberliner Oct 2017 #40

You continue repeating the same premise, but fail to support it with any objective evidence. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #69

Ow, my head! 🤕 Holy frickkken mackeral. sprinkleeninow Oct 2017 #77

You keep posting in circular logic, and won't define what you mean ehrnst Oct 2017 #99

+10000 treestar Oct 2017 #68

Exactly! Perfectly expressed. maddiemom Oct 2017 #31

Thank for from the bottom of my heart linnknee Oct 2017 #33

And Chris Cillizza can eat a bowl of fuck, for the same reason. (nt) Paladin Oct 2017 #34

Kick. -nt CrispyQ Oct 2017 #35

Right on! BarbD Oct 2017 #36

Con artists always try to deflect from their wrong doing by accusing innocent people of bad behavior Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #37

+1 Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2017 #41

Red herrings... chervilant Oct 2017 #55

k and r + several gazillion niyad Oct 2017 #44

I thought they all wanted Hillary to shut up and go away bitterross Oct 2017 #45

K&R ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #47

Amen happy feet Oct 2017 #48

Wow, this is TRUTH! MoonRiver Oct 2017 #49

CNN's BS false equivalence that helped elect the groper-in-chief whose behavior is not mentioned FreeStateDemocrat Oct 2017 #50

MSNBC has done the same thing. Skidmore Oct 2017 #53

K & R! Lifelong Protester Oct 2017 #54

Thank you. I saw that and it pissed me off treestar Oct 2017 #66

The difference is Weinstein samplegirl Oct 2017 #70

Exactly. Scarsdale Oct 2017 #71

K&R!! yonder Oct 2017 #72

Most excellent! You enunciated everything we feel and hold true. A heartfelt thank you. sprinkleeninow Oct 2017 #75

You nailed it! I hope they see it. Vinca Oct 2017 #76

"What took them so long?" TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #78

I am happy Hillary has made a statement, she was timely and did not tweet before more facts Thinkingabout Oct 2017 #79

Thank you Nancy one thousand times again and again katmondoo Oct 2017 #80

That was beautiful! Thank you! lunamagica Oct 2017 #81

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2017 #82

I mean what is the time frame for comment from private citizens? Is it written down somewhere? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #83

AGAIN, Nance. Again you nail it and speak for me! calimary Oct 2017 #84

Dear Nance - thank you for the excellent post . . FairWinds Oct 2017 #85

k&r bigtree Oct 2017 #86

Great thread Gothmog Oct 2017 #87

CNN - MSNBC Gave Us Trump - WE Won't Forget SeattlePop Oct 2017 #88

I hate the entire media and all those idiots who ply their trade in it. BSdetect Oct 2017 #91