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leftynyc

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138. We can't take ANYTHING

Reply to dembotoz (Reply #136)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:52 AM

Oct 2017

this man says at face value. He lies about everything.

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The NFL Commissioner is going to order the players to stand for the national anthem. [View all] kentuck Oct 2017 OP

Does this apply to the spectators as well? Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #1

+1000 dchill Oct 2017 #87

The flag and anthem have become more important than the American people. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #101

like this group bdamomma Oct 2017 #121

Maybe if ordered to stand, they can turn their backs instead? Pachamama Oct 2017 #2

I would stand on one leg to protest; i.e. a standing kneel aka Karate Kid crane position Not Ruth Oct 2017 #3

What are your "free speech" rights in your place of employment? jmg257 Oct 2017 #4

Amazed by people that don't understand what the 1st amendment really means. MichMan Oct 2017 #55

Saved me from posting that. pangaia Oct 2017 #132

If it isn't their contracts it a pile. DK504 Oct 2017 #69

I won't watch if they do. Give in to a bully, he will keep bullying you. Johonny Oct 2017 #5

So they stand and raise their fists as did the Mexico City Olympiads... hlthe2b Oct 2017 #6

The NFL Commissioner will find himself in court malaise Oct 2017 #7

Based on what? WillowTree Oct 2017 #9

Does it matter if the workplace was paid for by taxpayers? kentuck Oct 2017 #11

Nope. Doesnt matter. Calista241 Oct 2017 #20

Also being paid by their employers. WillowTree Oct 2017 #23

How much authority is given employers under our Constitution? kentuck Oct 2017 #26

The BOR MichMary Oct 2017 #35

The BOR does not apply to employers? kentuck Oct 2017 #39

What I'm saying is MichMary Oct 2017 #47

I would not consider "Hawaiian shirts" on the same level as "police brutality"... kentuck Oct 2017 #62

Freedom of Expression IS a basic right MichMary Oct 2017 #64

Can they order them to jump off a bridge? kentuck Oct 2017 #66

Another Question: Eyeball_Kid Oct 2017 #83

I would add, just for the sake of clarity....... WillowTree Oct 2017 #68

Unless, of course, they want to give them a drug test... kentuck Oct 2017 #71

Did you miss the part....... WillowTree Oct 2017 #111

People have been fired MichMary Oct 2017 #72

Did they post something....... WillowTree Oct 2017 #113

She worked for a bank MichMary Oct 2017 #116

Foolish on her part then. WillowTree Oct 2017 #118

Doesn't matter if it is on your own time or not MichMan Oct 2017 #74

In An "At-Will" State RobinA Oct 2017 #108

The Bill of Rights ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #36

Same thing I asked you on another thread. WillowTree Oct 2017 #38

There are consequences to our words and actions... kentuck Oct 2017 #44

If the employer MichMary Oct 2017 #50

That's a good question Major Nikon Oct 2017 #53

The first word of the 1st amendment provides your answer Major Nikon Oct 2017 #46

Well, they have a union. LisaM Oct 2017 #126

Unless the NFL's rules are deemed to violate their constituional rights. ElementaryPenguin Oct 2017 #134

Career Federal employee. Hangingon Oct 2017 #29

"Protests" seldom followed the rules that were "allowable"... kentuck Oct 2017 #33

The problem was losing your job. Hangingon Oct 2017 #45

Yes, you could lose your job. kentuck Oct 2017 #54

I was never asked to do anything illegal or unreasonable. Hangingon Oct 2017 #59

Try going off on a obscenity laced tirade at the judge in a court of law...... MichMan Oct 2017 #61

Not the same for government employees Major Nikon Oct 2017 #63

I think I would expect Hangingon Oct 2017 #92

Pissing off your employer isn't a great career move anywhere Major Nikon Oct 2017 #140

If everyone thought like you we would still have child labor and 12 hour work shifts amoung wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #17

Utter nonsense. WillowTree Oct 2017 #22

The labor movement was more than safety issues wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #30

The misunderstanding of the 1st Amendment here is mind boggling MichMan Oct 2017 #70

Apparently they do. WillowTree Oct 2017 #73

Those things ended because laws were passed, not because people took their employers to court Major Nikon Oct 2017 #28

I wasn't replying to the OP wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #32

You replied to someone who was even more specific Major Nikon Oct 2017 #41

NFL afraid of losing some easy money?? Bengus81 Oct 2017 #24

WHen did the anthem become part of the work of football players? malaise Oct 2017 #27

When they suited-up and walked on the field. WillowTree Oct 2017 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Oct 2017 #91

Unions can protest bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #31

It all depends MichMary Oct 2017 #42

I don't think it is a new rule though. WillowTree Oct 2017 #77

From SI bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #80

"The NFL is not considering punishing......." WillowTree Oct 2017 #85

If anythings happens it will be after this season ends bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #89

What do you mean? The rule is already there. WillowTree Oct 2017 #90

It isn't a "rule". lol bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #99

Maybe, actually. Depends on their contracts Nevernose Oct 2017 #117

It's in the game operations manual that's distributed to all NFL teams. WillowTree Oct 2017 #119

But not distributed or agreed to by all players Nevernose Oct 2017 #123

If all parties agree to "stand" instead of "should stand" Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #8

My guess is the Player''s Union will demand arbitration on the matter. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #10

Probably Major Nikon Oct 2017 #34

Disgusting. Paternal master has spoken. Ninga Oct 2017 #12

I Know That's What People Are Saying. . . ProfessorGAC Oct 2017 #13

Karate Kid crane position!!! Not Ruth Oct 2017 #19

Here is another link: kentuck Oct 2017 #25

Still Doesn't Say The Plan It To Order Them To Stand ProfessorGAC Oct 2017 #94

I don't think he is saying that explicitly but may be interpreted that way by owners and players? kentuck Oct 2017 #96

Probably So ProfessorGAC Oct 2017 #98

Sounds like a solution! kentuck Oct 2017 #100

This just feeds tRumps ego. Joe941 Oct 2017 #14

The players should go on strike. The owners are afraid of losing money. wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #15

The players cannot strike unless the union tells them to Not Ruth Oct 2017 #18

I agree, hit 'em in their wallets. That's all they really care about. Kleveland Oct 2017 #21

Haven't they been telling people what it's about? MichMary Oct 2017 #58

The NFL would LOVE for the players to go on strike. LOVE it. Calista241 Oct 2017 #137

Tell us again daddy about what is was like in the land of the free............ lunasun Oct 2017 #16

The National Anthem HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PERFORMING THEIR JOBS !!!! Trust Buster Oct 2017 #37

Exactly Bettie Oct 2017 #52

It isn't about pledging allegiance to anything MichMary Oct 2017 #57

Nonsense, the National Anthem has nothing to do with the performance of their jobs. Trust Buster Oct 2017 #79

"God" isn't mentioned in the Star Spangled Banner MichMary Oct 2017 #82

Stupid. This won't end well. grossproffit Oct 2017 #40

Let each individual decide; player, coach, management, fans; as to whether democratisphere Oct 2017 #43

I'm OK with standing for the national anthem so long as... kentuck Oct 2017 #48

I totally agree with you on the "not required" or "making it mandatory". democratisphere Oct 2017 #67

They should all kneel SHRED Oct 2017 #49

They should bow. boston bean Oct 2017 #51

So now your employer can make you swear allegiance to Herr Trump doc03 Oct 2017 #56

I want the protest message to be much more in front of this bend the knee cry. .. FarPoint Oct 2017 #60

What do you believe the real message meant by bending the knee is this week? Not Ruth Oct 2017 #75

Police shooting unarmed black males.... FarPoint Oct 2017 #84

I think that that was the message last season, but it seems to have evolved to anti Trump Not Ruth Oct 2017 #105

No, he's not. Iggo Oct 2017 #65

Then we will raise our fists C_U_L8R Oct 2017 #78

And possibly lose your jobs. WillowTree Oct 2017 #81

I will never stand up for the national anthem again ..... stonecutter357 Oct 2017 #86

Goodell is a spineless unprincipled weasel. jcmaine72 Oct 2017 #88

Arms race HAB911 Oct 2017 #93

Exactly. Dave Starsky Oct 2017 #97

If the NFL fines/punushes players for unwillingness to do post-game interviews with media... JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #95

So the teams can bench players but they still have to pay them, right? Demit Oct 2017 #104

They could possibly fine players, too. JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #110

The easy solution is to not have the players take the field till after the anthem is finished. Demit Oct 2017 #114

The NFL and Team Owners do though... it's their event to make whatever they awant of it. JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #115

They can't claim they want the game to be nonpolitical then. Demit Oct 2017 #133

Agreed but they can also tell the players to be apolitical, at least while at the games. JoeStuckInOH Oct 2017 #135

On the plus side, this means that the protesting players won Orrex Oct 2017 #102

The great divider has done it again... PunksMom Oct 2017 #103

There was no problem until Cheeto decided to make it one. OldHippieChick Oct 2017 #107

There is a difference between "should" and "shall" The_Casual_Observer Oct 2017 #106

Fuck the NFL. And sadly the NBA. maveric Oct 2017 #109

Is the Commissioner also going to regulate the players' facial expressions? WinkyDink Oct 2017 #112

California is burning. Texas and Puerto Rico are drowning. But what's our national priority? Initech Oct 2017 #120

exactly bdamomma Oct 2017 #122

He's tweetd 15 times about fake news and Roger Gooddell. ZERO about California. Initech Oct 2017 #125

California bdamomma Oct 2017 #128

I don't know. Initech Oct 2017 #129

Russia elected???? bdamomma Oct 2017 #131

He's not ordering anything leftynyc Oct 2017 #124

just another trump lie dembotoz Oct 2017 #136

We can't take ANYTHING leftynyc Oct 2017 #138

Truth dembotoz Oct 2017 #139

Might as well order me to never watch another game. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #127

I always hated Football/Wrestling/Martial Arts (the "ruffians") Dawson Leery Oct 2017 #130