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chowder66

(12,396 posts)
15. It's long I know but......
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 03:36 PM
Jul 2012

Here is what I would ask her;

Did she apply for a business license or did she create one and put in a drawer? Did she file said business license with a government agency (state and/or federal)?

Did she file any paperwork to protect the name of the company, trademark? Where did she file these? Was it NOT a government agency/office?

Did she file for an EIN? How did she do this without help of anyone? Where did she file it. Where did she get the form and the instructions? Who wrote the rules and requirements? Did she?

Does she think she would have a business without these steps/filings/licenses?
If no, then she is not doing this alone

Is she the only person buying her product?
If no, then she is not doing this alone.

Is she the only one running the operations?
If no, then she is not doing this alone

Did she build the building she is running her business out of?
If no, then she is not doing this alone.

Does she own the building or rent?
Either way, she is not doing this alone.

Does she do all maintenance required on the building and on products uses to run her business.
If no, then she is not doing this alone.

Did she invent all of those products she uses to run her business?
If no, then she is not doing this alone.

Does she deliver everything herself or pick up everything?
If no, then she is not doing this alone.

Does she have business insurance or any other kind of insurance whose rules and regulations follow some if not all of the same business requirements as her business and that the government sets forth?
If yes, then she is not doing this alone

Did she create all of the papers necessary to file, necessary to employ a person.
If no, then she is not doing this alone

Did she build the road she uses to get to work?
If no, then she is not doing this alone

Did she create and generate the electricity needed to run her business.
If no, then she is not doing this alone

Does she own a phone company? Electric or Gas company.
If no, then she is not doing this alone

Does she use a computer and does she own the ISP?
If no, then she is not doing this alone

Does she have a website. Does she own the web hosting service?
If no, then she is not doing this alone

Did she invent the internet?
If no, then she is not doing this alone

Does she have employees who are educated and or trained or have previous experience prior to ever meeting her?
If yes, then she is not doing this alone

Did she go to school?
If yes, she did not do this on her own.

Without an education of any kind does she think she would have been able to start this business.
If yes, she is lying. She would not know the answer to this and the likely-hood would be no.

Does she have customers? Without the customers (those who are buying her product) how would she do in her business? Same question for vendors, banks, government entities relating to business filings, legal services…shall I go on?

Who does she think that the papers needed to form a business, the structures (tax, compliance, regulatory, etc) came up with those so a person here in the U.S. can start a business?
She is not doing this alone.

Does she file taxes? Has she heard of something we call the IRS?
If yes, she is not doing this alone.

Where did her money to start the business come from? Did she earn it at another company? Did she get investors (friends, family, bank loan) to start up? Did she print her own money. Does she use banks?
If yes, she is not doing this alone.

Does she use recordkeeping? Does she use accounting software or a ledger book? Is she or the person doing the bookkeeping trained and educated?
If yes, she is not doing this alone

Does she know where the accounting practices come from? Does she know who designed them. She might want to take advantage of that thing we like to call education.

If there is a fire will she be putting it out. If there is a break in, will she investigate, prosecute, etc?
If no, she is not doing this alone.

Does she have a lawyer?
If yes, she is not doing this alone.

Has anyone helped her with any single process before she opened her doors (other than the many already involved - I.e. vendors, utilities, real estate, etc.).
If yes, she is not doing this alone.

Does she have business cards, logos, does she contact others to advertise, does she use google or any other marketing service for advertising her business?
If yes, she is not doing this alone.

And last on the list: If she stops using all the products she needs to run her business, all utilities, fires all the employees, stop making customers pay, would she have a leg to stand on in her argument?

If yes, she is in denial and her Pride and Ego have surpassed any moral or ethical foundation she may have had. She will have lost site on what it is to be a decent American.
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The President was making a point about how we actually work together and how that is an American value. Those who want to start a business have a path to do so. Those who want to help businesses prosper have a path to do so as well (to clarify in words this acquaintance would understand….Those who want to help are employees, consumers……. you know, those who burden others).

She says she went into business to not be a burden on anyone. Does she tell her customers that do not own their own business that they are a burden. If not. Why? Aren’t they a burden to her and if so why would she accept that burden which would in turn make her burdensome? Has she considered dropping all customers to release her burden?

The really funny thing is that her reasoning makes her a burden to society. That kind of thinking is what is causing so much economical and societal fracturing. It’s amazing she was able to get out of bed this morning….(but hey, she’s got hers).

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societyy's help doesn't just come from the governement either... TeamPooka Jul 2012 #1
Regulations on those (and there still are some)... JHB Jul 2012 #9
she uses no ifrastructure in her business huh? tk2kewl Jul 2012 #2
Why did she need Unemployment?? RockaFowler Jul 2012 #3
You Sure She's Off UE? ProfessorGAC Jul 2012 #14
Got that right RockaFowler Jul 2012 #22
I think we should bombard GEM$NBComcast with theObama quote malaise Jul 2012 #4
Response: "You did not understand what the president said." democrat_patriot Jul 2012 #5
Here: Joe Conservative Ian David Jul 2012 #6
There was a story - don't know if it was true TlalocW Jul 2012 #7
"Can you please get the quote where Obama said that?" The Doctor. Jul 2012 #8
Wonder what type of businesses she started that use no infrastructure? Must be sinkingfeeling Jul 2012 #10
Just subtract anything and everything taxes support, or government regulates to her benefit Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #11
Thanks to you all for your posts. Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #12
Check out Statgirl's post down a few from this one, that is the best response. His actual quote. n/t progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #20
Tell Her Not To Use My Roads ProfessorGAC Jul 2012 #13
It's long I know but...... chowder66 Jul 2012 #15
If you want to stay friendly, your best bet is to just give her the context StatGirl Jul 2012 #16
we should all put that quote on our facebook pages, with no comment. n/t progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #18
I would ask her why she had to file for UE if her biz was so successful... progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #17
Tell her to start up her business in Somalia. Swede Jul 2012 #19
I sent a letter to NBC News complaining of their out-of-context quote young_at_heart Jul 2012 #21
She had help... KansDem Jul 2012 #23
What sort of business did she start? Marr Jul 2012 #24
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