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Not Ruth

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4. War of 1812 against Brits
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:56 PM
Oct 2017
https://www.nps.gov/articles/mr-madison-s-war.htm

As they grew increasingly frustrated by the failure of President Jefferson’s and Madison’s policies of economic sanctions to win concessions from the British, a faction of congressmen known as the War Hawks began calling for more decisive and aggressive measures.

On June 1, 1812 President James Madison sent his war message to Congress. That message outlined what he believed to be America’s chief diplomatic grievances with Britain: impressment, the British Orders in Council, and Britain’s incitement of Indian warfare on America’s western frontier.

The Constitution gives the power to declare war to Congress. No Congress had exercised that power in the country’s nearly 25-year history. But in June 1812, the House and Senate narrowly approved the measure declaring war on the British. President Madison signed the Congressional war measures into law on June 18, 1812, marking the official commencement of the hostilities.

But enthusiasm for war against Britain was hardly unanimous. The vote in the House was 79 to 49; nearly four in ten representatives voted against the measure. The vote in the Senate was even closer, with 19 senators in favor and 13 opposed. It remains the closest vote in America’s five formally-declared wars.

And the vote occurred along strictly partisan lines. All 98 of the congressmen who voted for the war were Republicans. (Even within the Republican party, support for the war was hardly unanimous: one-quarter of Republicans either voted against the measure or abstained from the vote.) Not a single Federalist voted for the war. The partisan divisions led critics to later pronounce the War of 1812 "Mr. Madison's War."

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At least not that I can remember! imanamerican63 Oct 2017 #1
Civil War Not Ruth Oct 2017 #2
We were divided by geographical lines. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #3
War of 1812 against Brits Not Ruth Oct 2017 #4
each generation is so different - and it is hard to directly compare NRaleighLiberal Oct 2017 #5
brothers killed each other. we lost a full 2% of our entire population over the course of 4 years. unblock Oct 2017 #6
A Civil War is unfathomable because the divisions are ideological, not geographical. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #13
it is fathomable, at least in the sense that a convenient geographical border isn't a requirement unblock Oct 2017 #17
I think it's always divided Corvo Bianco Oct 2017 #7
The late 1960s were pretty crazy. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #8
the cleavages got to be pretty four dimensional Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2017 #12
I think people were a lot more divided at the peak of the anti-war movement than today Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2017 #9
I was in junior high school and had teachers who favored Vietnamization who I didn't loathe. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #10
Is 60-30 "divided"? brooklynite Oct 2017 #11
That is actually a good point but the division is closer to 60-40 DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #14
The advent of cable TV & the internet transformed sparks into a raging fire. VOX Oct 2017 #15
The latest data informs that the sharpest political divides are between large urban concentrations. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #16
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