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Womens Conference runs into rough seas of their own making [View all] sheshe2 Oct 2017 OP

PLEASE tell me it isnt true that Hillary is a 2nd night speaker and NOT the featured speaker? Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #1

whoever planned this should be fired samnsara Oct 2017 #7

hillary declined the invatation questionseverything Oct 2017 #22

Would you provide the link? sheshe2 Oct 2017 #27

here ya go questionseverything Oct 2017 #28

That statement doesn't say that Clinton was invited comradebillyboy Oct 2017 #58

yes it does and please dont call ms mallory "deceptive" questionseverything Oct 2017 #61

Bernie would accomodate her? sheshe2 Oct 2017 #66

us as in a woman..it's a womans conference u know questionseverything Oct 2017 #71

Social scientists are observing a growing political extremism on both Hortensis Oct 2017 #145

are u saying that because bernie was invited to speak and said yes questionseverything Oct 2017 #360

Not alone, definitely, but there's been a pattern of behavior we should beware of. Hortensis Oct 2017 #363

hillary was invited..is still invited,,,they can not MAKE her accept questionseverything Oct 2017 #364

I spoke about the organization, and in spite of what I suspected was a hostile Hortensis Oct 2017 #365

This. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #384

You mean the folks that intentionally left Hillary's name off the list of women who have inspired MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #162

Yes, those folks. deurbano Oct 2017 #180

Makes me want to cry. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #192

Are you one of the organizers? yardwork Oct 2017 #138

Tamika Mallory who's besties w/ Louis Farrakhan? grossproffit Oct 2017 #158

So "invited to participate" really means lapucelle Oct 2017 #306

Great Article Gothmog Oct 2017 #375

Harris, Warren, Gillibrand, and Clinton didn't all have to be too busy to attend. Hortensis Oct 2017 #392

+1 betsuni Oct 2017 #397

That's what they claim, but I'm not sure they're being honest. Ninsianna Oct 2017 #98

Former Michigander here RandySF Oct 2017 #290

What do you base this on? Ninsianna Oct 2017 #414

She did not say if they were invited. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #169

According to WaPo, those women were "invited to attend". lapucelle Oct 2017 #314

Wow. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #333

When were they invited? sheshe2 Oct 2017 #385

Really? How do we know that? Here is their statement, it doesn't state that any of the four, George II Oct 2017 #113

The organizers say so. Did Hillary confirm that she was invited? yardwork Oct 2017 #136

Not that I read anywhere. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #193

The only thing I've read is that these prominent woman leaders were lapucelle Oct 2017 #328

I will check them out, lapucelle. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #330

Aaaah. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #386

I read the statement provided and it is my opinion...none of those women leaders were invited . Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #172

I agree. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #194

Too bad this was made political. I had a ticket for one day but won't go. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #195

Not anywhere near me, so I could not. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #201

I live in Northern Ohio...it is not far. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #293

She's not even the 2nd night speaker. She won't be there, and they have been vague about... George II Oct 2017 #112

That just breaks my heart. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #128

Why? AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #409

If we put politics aside GaryCnf Oct 2017 #2

Then put that aside and make it about women. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #4

I will guarantee that if Nina Turner GaryCnf Oct 2017 #5

Yes it does. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #8

careful Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #10

If Obama were speaking at the conference, you'd be doing backflips. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #186

Obama signed the Lilly Ledbetter act...and promotes women's rights. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #295

Michelle Obama would have been an excellent choice for Opening speaker. nt DesertRat Oct 2017 #356

I agree...and it would have been about women...what it is now is a political rally... Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #390

As much as Obama has done for women, I am not sure he passes the test either. stevenleser Oct 2017 #326

Of course not Barak. But WHERE'S MICHELLE? Not in Detroit on Oct 27-29. Hortensis Oct 2017 #422

You Are Right Me. Oct 2017 #17

+1000 for honesty GaryCnf Oct 2017 #19

Sorry, but it absolutely does. TNNurse Oct 2017 #40

Yeah, well the keynote speaker is Maxine Waters. So......... Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #46

The keynote speaker is . . . wait . . . a woman GaryCnf Oct 2017 #203

Maxine needs a MAN TO FIRE UP THE CROWD FOR HER? EllieBC Oct 2017 #308

+1, it's just disgusting that they appropriated her words R B Garr Oct 2017 #313

That is exactly what it is ...you know Our revolution is involved. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #403

Your outrage can end then, Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #405

Nina has said when she was promoting Mello that the Democratic Party was going to have to accept Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #197

Nina Turner said that she is open to supporting Republicans? yardwork Oct 2017 #374

I read that, yardwork. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #383

Yes she did...and Greens too. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #389

I would not go near anything murielm99 Oct 2017 #387

Dont engage Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #9

... sheshe2 Oct 2017 #11

Put politics aside: Listen to this male politician give his stump speech. SaschaHM Oct 2017 #12

Yep. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #43

Yep. That's pretty much it in a nutshell. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2017 #156

The same speech...usuallyl Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #294

Btw, Tamika Mallory GaryCnf Oct 2017 #13

the pointof this conference is to fire up the 99 to retake the house questionseverything Oct 2017 #32

Thank you GaryCnf Oct 2017 #39

Women were fired up a long time ago. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #69

Exactly! Tamika could also be simply honest about who R B Garr Oct 2017 #161

So fired up that a majority of white women Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #406

I fail to see how something this divisive will fire up anyone. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #296

Sorry, but the real point is to attack the Democratic Party. Hortensis Oct 2017 #423

so u really hate ms mallory, i guess questionseverything Oct 2017 #424

No, I don't hate her. I despise her contemptible, mean-spirited troublemaking. Hortensis Oct 2017 #425

Hmmm sheshe2 Oct 2017 #44

I know you've been instructed GaryCnf Oct 2017 #54

Instructed? No. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #129

Tamika Mallory is a friend of yours? sheshe2 Oct 2017 #102

Yes GaryCnf Oct 2017 #146

She did that herself...by making a decision she knew would be controversial and doing so after the Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #141

She is one of four leader of the woman's march. I am not impressed thus far. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #311

Is there another black woman who has GaryCnf Oct 2017 #323

There were four women who organized the woman's march not one. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #325

I lulzed. That's funny. Squinch Oct 2017 #29

60-2 n/t GaryCnf Oct 2017 #33

I don't think they realize how insulting they are to these Women of Color leaders of the convention Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #50

They actually released an explaination earlier saying they needed his leadership .... bettyellen Oct 2017 #56

That's not true. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #59

They said want Bernie to tell them "what to do" I guess you missed that story... bettyellen Oct 2017 #124

Here is their statement, looks like it's an after-the-fact, after-the-brouhaha statement. George II Oct 2017 #107

What a hot mess the organizers turned this into .. JHan Oct 2017 #110

I'm starting to wonder if the "organizers" are really the organizers. George II Oct 2017 #111

OMG melman Oct 2017 #115

Im thinking the same thing. yardwork Oct 2017 #137

It was in an interview with USA Today- I posted the link in response to a post that said I was lying bettyellen Oct 2017 #126

OMG! sheshe2 Oct 2017 #130

There aren't 60 speakers, only 44: George II Oct 2017 #109

"They" are simply pointing out that the choice was a ridiculous one. Squinch Oct 2017 #114

Yep. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #131

And won't respond when called out on this obvious attempt to falsely smear DU'ers as racist emulatorloo Oct 2017 #327

THIS sheshe2 Oct 2017 #336

Thank you for mansplain' this. brer cat Oct 2017 #205

I try really really hard to keep my hysterics in check. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #210

I don't think you realize how your insulting your attempt to smear DU'ers as racists emulatorloo Oct 2017 #324

I guess it's ok to take away agency of women of color when they do something you disagree with. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #353

Nah you've been promoting this talking point multiple times in this thread irregardless of what's emulatorloo Oct 2017 #354

Omg. Are you serious? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #357

I see a couple three outlier opinions. None of them are based on the race of the organizers. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #358

Here. This is on this page/thread Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #361

And you believe that is a majority opinion @ DU? It's an outlier, if I had seen I would have pushed emulatorloo Oct 2017 #362

Its too bad that the poster didnt include a link to my post. You could have found it more quickly. yardwork Oct 2017 #371

I posted that. You should have given me credit. yardwork Oct 2017 #370

At least you were quoted correctly and your words weren't changed, unlike my "quote". George II Oct 2017 #377

I saw that! yardwork Oct 2017 #378

Rather than a clarification or, heaven forbid, an apology, I got a "Lol"! But.... George II Oct 2017 #379

I appreciate the amplification of our points. yardwork Oct 2017 #380

... George II Oct 2017 #381

Oh it's an outlier alright. But not among The Bernie Rapid Response Team. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #366

Ok have a great dinner. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #367

The first one was me, and I didn't say "the organizers aren't the organizers".... George II Oct 2017 #372

Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #373

So you completely changed the meaning of what I said, get "caught", and you "Lol"? Lol. George II Oct 2017 #376

Cause what's a feminist conference without some mansplaining? MoonRiver Oct 2017 #147

You know we can't get anything done without a man. And all those Squinch Oct 2017 #153

We DU women get it. MoonRiver Oct 2017 #159

Politically tone deaf. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #170

This. cwydro Oct 2017 #3

Happy to rec this mcar Oct 2017 #6

Sanders himself aside, couldn't the organizers find enough smart, dynamic WOMEN to speak? catbyte Oct 2017 #14

How About Michelle Obama For Starters Me. Oct 2017 #20

Gillibrand and Harris were invited but couldn't attend. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #51

And The Others Me. Oct 2017 #78

You tell me. I'm not the one throwing a fit over to these Women of Color organizers ... Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #85

"Bernie Sanders to deliver opening-night speech at Women's Convention" Me. Oct 2017 #91

Sounds like this conference was very poorly planned, or the organizers are being very evasive. yardwork Oct 2017 #140

! Me. Oct 2017 #149

Its just my observation from years of experience organizing events. yardwork Oct 2017 #150

It bothers me that you insinuate these organizers are on Putin's payroll emulatorloo Oct 2017 #368

Putin is paying a lot of money to divide Democrats and I call it like I see it. yardwork Oct 2017 #369

Yes, sounds like a lot of behind the scenes co-opting R B Garr Oct 2017 #164

Why are you trying to make this about race? It's about a tone deaf decision and terrible optics. emulatorloo Oct 2017 #241

Were they really invited? Their quasi-official after the fact statement.... George II Oct 2017 #117

I looked at the statement. I am not convinced any were invited...the statement does not explicitly Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #196

lapucelle posted a WAPO link above. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #337

That is so disgusting...there are no words.. going to have to organize our own stuff... I refuse to Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #344

No interest for me either. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #346

I don't think they were invited to participate...and Maxine was at the last minute too. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #396

Yeah, the organizers went back in time and planted this article in September to trick people Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #399

Did you rad it? Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #402

Lol. Here we go again Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #408

Nowhere does is say she will speak...they are talking about how they used her words in the name of Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #411

Lol . okiedokie Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #415

You know what I am saying is true...you won't admit that there is no evidence anyone Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #416

So how did this work? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #419

They said nothing about her speaking. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #421

Two more sheshe2 Oct 2017 #133

All I have seen is a wishy washy Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #297

so happy to knr. mopinko Oct 2017 #15

I agree, thanks mo! sheshe2 Oct 2017 #16

trust me, as soon as the ducks are all rounded up mopinko Oct 2017 #21

We can do this one race at a time! sheshe2 Oct 2017 #26

just like the wrong wing did. start down ticket. mopinko Oct 2017 #31

I wish the best for her all around... sheshe2 Oct 2017 #48

thanks she. mopinko Oct 2017 #97

It's hard to believe the planners are that tone-deaf. brer cat Oct 2017 #18

I don't get why some don't see what is wrong with this picture. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #24

This paragraph is THE WHOLE TRUTH. I want it up where a billion people would see it. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2017 #37

Hi Blanche. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #49

Hi she! Hugs!!! The gopee don't like us, you say? BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2017 #83

Better than gopee... sheshe2 Oct 2017 #103

They don't see anything wrong brer cat Oct 2017 #53

So you got a conference by and for women. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #55

There should be 0 men leftofcool Oct 2017 #70

. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #74

Or, and tell me if you think I am wrong, if there was an elected Democratic male whose #1 stevenleser Oct 2017 #79

Do you have a link to where your quote came from so we have some context? sheshe2 Oct 2017 #73

I don't do twitter either but here is a post with the twitter links embedded so you can view. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #76

How did I drag their name through the mud by saying they made a bad decision? sheshe2 Oct 2017 #82

It's in the quote I posted. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #86

I copied it because you did not post a link. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #92

Why won't YOU brer cat Oct 2017 #331

This is a Womens Conference but your seem to narrow the focus to WOC vs all Women. Why's that? ATL Ebony Oct 2017 #345

Maybe you shouldn't imply that decisions made by WOC can't be questioned simply because Squinch Oct 2017 #154

It's one slimy tactic is what it is. n/t kcr Oct 2017 #166

Why to you continually repeat "Women of Color" or "WOC" in your posts? People are upset... George II Oct 2017 #212

This is the second time you put this quote up. Control-Z Oct 2017 #75

He finally posted this sheshe2 Oct 2017 #99

That is a slimy tactic and not even true... Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #307

I agree with you 100%, Demsrule. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #339

It's become a cult of personality. Adrahil Oct 2017 #63

The entire intention is to divide. yardwork Oct 2017 #139

brilliant article. JHan Oct 2017 #23

It really is, JHan. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #52

Disgusted with their choice for so many reasons. efhmc Oct 2017 #25

This one certainly can't hold a candle to the Seneca Falls Convention. George II Oct 2017 #30

Not even close. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #36

I knew the Clinton partisans wouldn't be pleased with this choice. nt m-lekktor Oct 2017 #34

Well, I knew that the.... sheshe2 Oct 2017 #35

Yes, I knew that the... R B Garr Oct 2017 #47

Why thank you, RB. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #57

You could probably have predicted that a lot of female partisans wouldn't like it either. That Squinch Oct 2017 #116

You mean having a man speak for women at a womens conference? leftofcool Oct 2017 #127

women are not pleased period. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #142

This has nothing to do with Clinton... I support the next Democratic candidate ... Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #171

The Clinton partisans? murielm99 Oct 2017 #177

Of course you'd say that, that's the only framing you know emulatorloo Oct 2017 #342

Bernie's Income Inequality Message Aside, What Has He Done to Advance the Cause of Women's Rights? dlk Oct 2017 #38

Thanks, I've been waiting for someone to bring up reality. R B Garr Oct 2017 #42

He's a life long staunch defender of Women's Rights in Congress Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #151

Yet he has endorsed at least three anti-choice candidates recently. MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #182

It literally is the position of the Democratic Party not to have a litmus test on that Tom Rinaldo Oct 2017 #184

"Sexual adjustment seemed to be very poor in those with cancer of the cervix" RandySF Oct 2017 #291

Its a horrible decision and would be if you change it to any diversity group stevenleser Oct 2017 #41

Great post, stevenleser. And you're right that the decision R B Garr Oct 2017 #45

Is this event the kickoff for Bernie's 2020 presidential campaign? comradebillyboy Oct 2017 #62

That's really the only thing that makes sense about this choice because its not about women stevenleser Oct 2017 #68

It's a Bernie Fest leftofcool Oct 2017 #72

+1, his own words were interesting about using the R B Garr Oct 2017 #163

Thanks. I tried to make this point on Twitter, and got some hurr durr from the defenders of this. Starry Messenger Oct 2017 #77

Thanks Steven. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #87

Thank YOU sheshe! Your OP inspired me to change this comment into an OP of my own! stevenleser Oct 2017 #88

Link it Steven sheshe2 Oct 2017 #101

Actually I just wrote a second one. Here are links to both! stevenleser Oct 2017 #104

Excellent OPS! I kicked the heck out of them! Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #300

You're so right. Not about women. This is about the cult of personality that surrounds BS. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #94

There is most certainly a cult of personality. GaryCnf Oct 2017 #152

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #209

Hmmm...a bit pricey... janx Oct 2017 #60

Perhaps he'll explain that women's problems are due to economic inequality Orrex Oct 2017 #64

Yep. Which is a big part of why I think it was a bad decision. Even if he doesn't say that Squinch Oct 2017 #119

To drop out means he would get crap for not supporting the group Omaha Steve Oct 2017 #65

Where did anyone say that he did, Steve? sheshe2 Oct 2017 #80

It wasn't aimed at you Omaha Steve Oct 2017 #90

Thank you for clarifying. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #93

K&R stonecutter357 Oct 2017 #67

This is a WOMEN'S conference. Men need to back off and defer to . . . . . WOMEN Stinky The Clown Oct 2017 #81

Of the 44 speakers, 42 are women and 2 are men oberliner Oct 2017 #84

Who does the other man happen to be? Demit Oct 2017 #89

Abdul El-Sayed oberliner Oct 2017 #95

Thanks. Demit Oct 2017 #108

There's nothing wrong with a man being a speaker. NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #179

Maxine Waters is the keynote speaker oberliner Oct 2017 #183

I wonder if it ever occurred to BS that this might not be the forum for him? I mean it's not as if.. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2017 #96

OOOOOOH Forgot Me. Oct 2017 #100

Some are taking posters to task for attacking two WOC sheshe2 Oct 2017 #105

At least one of the organizers admitted that she knew the choice was controversial stevenleser Oct 2017 #106

The idea being pushed that a bad decison made by WOC cannot be called a bad decision simply Squinch Oct 2017 #118

Exactly. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #120

Hi, sheshe2! Squinch Oct 2017 #121

Hi ya, Squinch. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #122

Loony. And on our side the strife is always coming from the same corner. Squinch Oct 2017 #123

Sleep tight! sheshe2 Oct 2017 #125

It's not the decision. People are claiming these Women of Color "need" a white man's help. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #176

Nice try, but you know that's not what it is and so do they. Squinch Oct 2017 #178

Well actually... sheshe2 Oct 2017 #185

Yeah bullshit. That doesn't even come close to "Bernie needs to tell us what to do" Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #190

Alrighty then. eom sheshe2 Oct 2017 #191

Dude this is not about race. So stop insinuating DU'ers who question the idea of a man opening emulatorloo Oct 2017 #243

But the choice is so obviously a mistake that there is really no other argument for them to Squinch Oct 2017 #304

Oh they certainly requested his presence...very sneaky to do it after the time had passed for a Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #309

This message was self-deleted by its author Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #310

It's the Mello endorsement BainsBane Oct 2017 #132

Correct. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #134

Oh, but Bains, if we get economic parity for all white guys, civil rights violations against Squinch Oct 2017 #155

Just like in the 1950s! BainsBane Oct 2017 #160

Its obvious to me whats behind this. yardwork Oct 2017 #135

who benefits from not unifying on issues we supposedly all agree with? What is the actual JCanete Oct 2017 #143

LOL. You are equating a few posts on a message board with actual events. yardwork Oct 2017 #144

You don't even know who THE headline speaker is. Maxine Waters is the keynote speaker. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #167

She is playing second fiddle to Sen. Sanders as he is the first speaker...sorry not acceptable for a Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #173

When does the headliner ever go on first? melman Oct 2017 #174

Yep. Bernie is just the warm-up act. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #175

His act does not belong at this conference for the reasons already mentioned. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #198

Well you be sure to not invite him when you put together a convention. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #200

I actually do stage events in my neck of the woods...and you can be sure he would not be invited to Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #305

you mean heaven05 Oct 2017 #316

The opening speaker is very important...and at a woman's conference, it should not be a man...and Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #199

BOOM!!!!!!!! heaven05 Oct 2017 #317

No, of course I'm not. I'm talking about the whole backlash from establishment figures like Joy Reid JCanete Oct 2017 #321

For the record Joy Reid is not 'establishment'...sick of hearing this stuff. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #404

Joy Reid is absolutely a party liner. When does she deviate from the script? That's my question. JCanete Oct 2017 #407

Being a loyal Democrat ...I am too...does not make you establishment... which is meant in a negative Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #412

How do you interpret "party liner?" Anybody who will take the party's position, or a specific JCanete Oct 2017 #413

I support the Democratic party without reservation. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #417

Sen. Sander is not solid on woman's rights...as he has repeatedly criticised identity politics Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #312

yes and I've addressed that in a couple posts. I disagree with you and I"ve explained why. I'd JCanete Oct 2017 #322

His votes are fine...but not the rhetoric. I see it the opposite way...he champions economic justice Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #329

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Oct 2017 #351

BOOM! Der it iz. BlueCaliDem Oct 2017 #157

K&R Gothmog Oct 2017 #148

"Maybe it will take Senator Sanders himself..." NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #165

Why did they get to organize it? BainsBane Oct 2017 #168

Separatism has never been a good strategy for the Left . . FairWinds Oct 2017 #181

Zero discussion of issues, but never-ending pissing and moaning... SMC22307 Oct 2017 #187

Perhaps...the organizers shouldn't have asked him to speak at a Woman's conference. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #398

I'm a woman and couldn't care less if a man speaks at a woman's conference. SMC22307 Oct 2017 #430

Well many women -including me-did not agree. Alls well that ends well though. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #431

The "issues" were supposed to be women's issues. Not relegating those R B Garr Oct 2017 #231

"Rather they have their own political agenda and are inserting it to the detriment... SunSeeker Oct 2017 #188

I would have loved this to be about us. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #189

The 1977 women's conference and its Call To Action were heroic. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #202

You can't see one woman that is worthy? sheshe2 Oct 2017 #204

Truth Will Out Me. Oct 2017 #207

There are lots of worthy women today-I said nothing collectively dismissive Ken Burch Oct 2017 #230

Oh, so it's the establishment thing. betsuni Oct 2017 #237

That's my view about ALL movements for change. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #251

So you mean community organizers like Obama shouldn't try to get higher up in politics? betsuni Oct 2017 #274

I posted about JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #298

Thank you for Skidmore Oct 2017 #338

Sorry I managed to sound that way. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #352

Good Grief Me. Oct 2017 #206

Wow. Just wow. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #208

Pretty sickening. smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #211

Stuns Me. Oct 2017 #213

I'm more than slightly upset here. herding cats Oct 2017 #215

Well At Least We Now Know What's What Me. Oct 2017 #217

Who'd say something so tone deaf as that? herding cats Oct 2017 #226

Not "women". A few leaders. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #218

KB Do Yourself A Favor Me. Oct 2017 #221

We all know THAT'S never going to happen. betsuni Oct 2017 #224

the people expressing outrage heaven05 Oct 2017 #320

No I wasn't defending the idea of inviting Bernie. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #348

Yeah, it's a real shame we don't have a strong voices like Rosalynn Carter, Lady Bird Johnson... herding cats Oct 2017 #214

I admire all of those women. And there are some good leaders today. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #216

So you're literally saying our current leaders have lost the message? herding cats Oct 2017 #220

The message has ceased to be transformative. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #233

What are you trying to say to me? herding cats Oct 2017 #242

I think he wants Transformers at the conference. Aren't Transformers a type of giant robot? betsuni Oct 2017 #245

I dunno. That could be kind of cool. herding cats Oct 2017 #248

It sure would be radical. Revolutionary even. betsuni Oct 2017 #253

Boys love transformers. Maybe that's it! Squinch Oct 2017 #303

What I was saying is the national feminist leadership is now sharply to the right Ken Burch Oct 2017 #258

Ok, I'm willing to take this in baby steps with you. herding cats Oct 2017 #262

There's no reason to get all Inquisition on this Ken Burch Oct 2017 #266

I asked you to back up your assertions. That's all. herding cats Oct 2017 #267

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Oct 2017 #271

Who? Where? When? herding cats Oct 2017 #272

It's not about individuals Ken Burch Oct 2017 #273

Then surely you can provide links to an article or charts or things you've read about these trends. betsuni Oct 2017 #276

No... your words were about an individual, not our cause or our voices. herding cats Oct 2017 #277

It's ALL about individuals NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #359

You're just talking about Hillary aren't you? herding cats Oct 2017 #275

No. It's not about Hillary. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #349

Yet you said as much and then you chose to delete it. herding cats Oct 2017 #388

Ah, the list. betsuni Oct 2017 #283

They're not going to answer you. herding cats Oct 2017 #288

Oh, I don't expect an answer, don't even want an answer. betsuni Oct 2017 #292

Not "the list" Ken Burch Oct 2017 #347

with the BS economic message heaven05 Oct 2017 #334

That would be insulting if it werent so laughably misinformed. yardwork Oct 2017 #382

amazingly obvious heaven05 Oct 2017 #332

Oh, and I do want names and quotes. With links. herding cats Oct 2017 #265

I'm not attacking you or even commenting on you as an individual. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #269

Worst adult conversation I've ever had. herding cats Oct 2017 #281

Facts were way too difficult for you to provide? herding cats Oct 2017 #285

I too am... sheshe2 Oct 2017 #261

We're trying to flesh out what they mean here. herding cats Oct 2017 #264

Well, actually... sweetloukillbot Oct 2017 #280

Did you follow our conversation to its end? herding cats Oct 2017 #282

It's about what I'd expect from that particular poster... sweetloukillbot Oct 2017 #284

Omg. I didn't expect where we landed. herding cats Oct 2017 #286

Oh, you admire them, yet they still aren't good enough. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #222

I agree with everything in what you posted in the original OP, as I did then. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #238

Here it comes again, the old "Democrats don't have a message/don't stand for anything" betsuni Oct 2017 #223

No...it's "watering things down doesn't work". Ken Burch Oct 2017 #234

It's like a stuck record. JHan Oct 2017 #246

It's like there's a list. betsuni Oct 2017 #250

This message was self-deleted by its author Ken Burch Oct 2017 #260

"Respectability" -- you mean like wearing shoes and nice clothes? betsuni Oct 2017 #278

Respectability? Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #391

I think "respectability" is the new "establishment." betsuni Oct 2017 #400

Ah, I see. Anything to attack Democrats it seems. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #401

So Ken, come clean. This is performance art, right? Squinch Oct 2017 #227

No. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #236

But you maintain that no women today are worthy of carrying the flag of what, in your opinion, Squinch Oct 2017 #302

Please tell me this is a joke. This can't be real lunamagica Oct 2017 #229

Until a woman meets your standards BainsBane Oct 2017 #235

I've posted several times Bernie should turn down the invitation. But it's not MY standards here. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #239

This was your post BainsBane Oct 2017 #240

That was my post. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #244

Bullshit. Sorry to tell you, but you couldn't be more wrong. KitSileya Oct 2017 #252

I SUPPORT intersectionality-which also includes economic justice and always has. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #255

Excellent post! Metatron Oct 2017 #420

How do you know speakers' messages would be "stay the course, ask for as little as possible"? betsuni Oct 2017 #254

I didn't say that that's what ALL the speakers would say. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #257

Giving speaking slots to grassroots activists would turn them into leaders and once somebody is betsuni Oct 2017 #263

No. There needs to be new voices brought in from below at all times. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #350

???? heaven05 Oct 2017 #335

Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #247

Oy. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #299

you aren't serious????????????? heaven05 Oct 2017 #318

Yes, such a person does exist. lapucelle Oct 2017 #343

An already "controversial" First Lady beleaguered by a sneering media lapucelle Oct 2017 #355

The author nailed my feelings on this issue. herding cats Oct 2017 #219

An apology. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #225

My personal take? I suspect it was subterfuge which blew up on the planners. herding cats Oct 2017 #232

You'd think they've have learned from their nonsense back in January... JHan Oct 2017 #249

Personal confession moment. herding cats Oct 2017 #256

When is your rally? I won't attend the Woman's convention now after such a disrespectful Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #393

K&R betsuni Oct 2017 #228

They held onto this information until late. LisaM Oct 2017 #259

because they wanted to sell tickets and waited until after deadline for refunds JI7 Oct 2017 #268

What about Jennifer Granholm? LisaM Oct 2017 #279

didn't see anything about her either JI7 Oct 2017 #287

This is about promoting one man's candidacy for 2020...can You guess who that candidate will be? Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #395

So our revolution is involved? Boy, I feel stupid. I was not aware of that. I despise that woman and Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #394

Outrage for the sake of outrage. romanic Oct 2017 #270

This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Oct 2017 #289

YEP! Also they waited to tell them about this decision so many felt that was wrong too. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #301

great OP heaven05 Oct 2017 #315

Thank you heaven! sheshe2 Oct 2017 #319

I will not be watching this event Gothmog Oct 2017 #340

Nor will I. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #341

"put the politics away" Lordquinton Oct 2017 #410

Sad the planning committee made it political. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #418

Are you happy now? Lordquinton Oct 2017 #426

Sad. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #427

The organizers are evidently making changes Gothmog Oct 2017 #428

;) sheshe2 Oct 2017 #429