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Hortensis

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69. You're one of a relative few who were aware and saw this coming.
Sat Oct 14, 2017, 08:17 AM
Oct 2017

The religious right's alliance with conservative business plutocrats scares me bad also, not least because people don't realize it's happening.

I was a young mother with tiny children during the Nixon scandal. It was ugly, sometimes fascinating, but I seldom did more than scan the headlines in the L.A. Times over breakfast. Aside from the usual worry about the "military-industrial complex," I was mostly clueless about more occult right-wing trends.

I only began to really see it with the end of the cold war. All of a sudden the kind of conservatives who were sure we had to destroy Russia before they got us had that taken away and badly needed a new threat to fear. Instead of a foreign enemy, though, they were helped to find it inside America and turned virulently on the left, the Democrats, the dirty radical liberals. New right wing media went after the Clintons with a hugely funded hateful, virulent dishonesty that was unprecedented. Email brought new vicious lies every week.

My husband belonged to a sportsmans club that had lots of conservatives, and as a group they turned hostile and aggressive when politics were discussed. Like if we tried to discuss the emails they chortled over. Our next-door, close friends of over two decades the same, so that we became estranged. We lost another pair of old friends in a flash when they attacked while we were playing cards. So it was then that I started reading and seriously looking for answers as to what was happening on the right.

Even then I believed enough of them, those who were good people in other aspects of their lives, would finally reach lines they wouldn't cross. I still thought/hoped for that in 2016. No longer.

Well, it's coming to a head now. Of course, I thought it was in 2016. But this time hopefully they feel the pain themselves and enough of them have the sense to back away from it.



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We knew this going in... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #1
Exactly, but the planned destruction is FAR GREATER than pubs realize. Hortensis Oct 2017 #4
You forgot the Russians.. pangaia Oct 2017 #15
Yup workinclasszero Oct 2017 #16
THIS is what needs to be leading every news broadcast on the planet... pangaia Oct 2017 #18
Its so ironic that a hostile foreign government workinclasszero Oct 2017 #22
"we will destroy you from within.." Khrushchev so many decades ago. nt 7962 Oct 2017 #40
Not unless Russia citizens band together too bdamomma Oct 2017 #26
Feels like he already DOES! Texin Oct 2017 #45
NOPE. They're merely benefiting from what's happening inside our nation. Hortensis Oct 2017 #35
Well, I can not argue with you there... pangaia Oct 2017 #67
K & R - Excellent summary. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #42
:) Free red Kool-Aid available through every medium. Hortensis Oct 2017 #54
What a cabal! Now, if only we could only figure out ways.... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #61
Yes. They are an alliance of ruthless enemies all determined to win. Hortensis Oct 2017 #65
I agree, that may the way to crack the shell. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #66
You're one of a relative few who were aware and saw this coming. Hortensis Oct 2017 #69
It's looting on the grandest scale in history, the ultimate con job. The_Casual_Observer Oct 2017 #2
K&R defacto7 Oct 2017 #3
That's why Putin elected him. eShirl Oct 2017 #5
+1 byronius Oct 2017 #25
Many GOPers in Congress and red-state Legislatures want this as well. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #6
Naomi Klein laid it out in her books... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #7
Who is stopping them? SHRED Oct 2017 #8
If you want to change it.. Get out and Vote. 2018 is our next time. lancelyons Oct 2017 #9
May be too late by then. but... pangaia Oct 2017 #19
America is going to be great again like the oligarchs who took over Russia IronLionZion Oct 2017 #10
Exactly the plan. elehhhhna Oct 2017 #41
Yep, all envious, evil white men that hate former President Obama and his abilities that smashed the coolsandy Oct 2017 #11
One correction: Saviolo Oct 2017 #12
Vote, vote, vote in 2018, in 2020, in 2024... N_E_1 for Tennis Oct 2017 #13
Our furniture is at risk. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #14
and our children's furniture! 0rganism Oct 2017 #27
LOL. Make Furniture Great Again. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #31
almost as stupid as bdamomma Oct 2017 #32
this: "Above all else in America, we don't worship government. We worship God." L. Coyote Oct 2017 #38
Just part of the Russian/Putin plot. KPN Oct 2017 #17
Yes, And that is frightening. pangaia Oct 2017 #20
Yes, it is. KPN Oct 2017 #21
well we are the majority bdamomma Oct 2017 #30
and that has been the party of fascists goal all along elmac Oct 2017 #23
hold on to your butts... yuiyoshida Oct 2017 #24
Express elevator to hell SnowCritter Oct 2017 #37
You got the other ref right too! MrScorpio Oct 2017 #44
You got ref right! MrScorpio Oct 2017 #43
This goes back to Reagan. LisaM Oct 2017 #28
+1 yes it was lunasun Oct 2017 #53
Anarcho-Fascists gotta blow up democratic systems BBG Oct 2017 #29
Republicans want to destroy America...this is standard operating procedure for them workinclasszero Oct 2017 #33
The 9 most frightening words in the English language are: world wide wally Oct 2017 #62
Expect our constitution to be nullified by this time next year kimbutgar Oct 2017 #34
I hear you. MontanaMama Oct 2017 #48
The GOP controls just about enough states to call a constitutional convention workinclasszero Oct 2017 #68
Deconstruction of the administrative state Freethinker65 Oct 2017 #36
This has been SOP for Republicans for decades. joshcryer Oct 2017 #39
Not just the government. They are building the conditions for war against Korea and Iran. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #46
Glad I'm not the only one seeing that workinclasszero Oct 2017 #47
Sadly I think we lost this fight back when no one was prosecuted for the Iraq war. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #49
Bush and Darth Cheney workinclasszero Oct 2017 #51
Yep. It's why his fellow GOPers are letting him run rough-shod. GoCubsGo Oct 2017 #50
1. sorry to say but cilla4progress Oct 2017 #52
They are basically Domestic Terrorists Loge23 Oct 2017 #55
Trump is the GOP's patsy who will sign anything they manage to pass, no matter how horrible TeamPooka Oct 2017 #56
Midterms, Midterms, Midterms..... Heartstrings Oct 2017 #57
50% of the population could not care less.. HipChick Oct 2017 #58
Today's Republicans aren't Conservatives Loyd Oct 2017 #59
Today hes pandering to the Religious Reicht Fritz Walter Oct 2017 #60
Don't be fooled by this talk of "big" government and "smaller" government. world wide wally Oct 2017 #63
Not a doubt in my mind. lpbk2713 Oct 2017 #64
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