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Grammy23

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5. Malaise, I have been asking this question for years.

Sat Oct 14, 2017, 10:46 AM

Oct 2017

It takes some kind of nerve (gall) to be so high and mighty about who gets to have nukes and who does not. The irony is sometimes more than I can stand. Why is it that most Americans seem to think that not only is it logical for us to be the deciders about that, but that it is, somehow, RIGHT?

The rest of the world probably thinks we are a little full of ourselves for thinking we get to stop other countries from obtaining or building a nuclear weapon. The only country that anihilated two towns (and its citizens) in Japan because it was deemed the quickest way to save lives? Give me a break. If we didn’t do that MORE people would have died. Guess we’ll never know the answer to that, will we? No one ever addresses the fact that it was Japanese civilians who died or were maimed in those bombings. We’d still be howling about the carnage and injustice if it was San Francisco and Chicago that had been incinerated by the Japanese.

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Why is the only country to have ever nuked another country [View all] malaise Oct 2017 OP

No Nukes! spanone Oct 2017 #1

That's a very inconvenient question. MineralMan Oct 2017 #2

Especially since the way it works is Mutually Assured Destruction treestar Oct 2017 #3

Don the Con literally want s to be the malaise Oct 2017 #4

I think that is what he thought being POTUS would treestar Oct 2017 #6

Including the other two branches of government malaise Oct 2017 #8

Mutually Assured Destruction assumes that everyone with a nuke is a rational actor. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #34

I hope Kelly gets him a game treestar Oct 2017 #36

Not sure that would be a good idea. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #39

Malaise, I have been asking this question for years. Grammy23 Oct 2017 #5

Well we grew up under British colonialism/imperialism so we understand it in ways malaise Oct 2017 #7

For several years we were the ONLY country with them; yet didn't use them again. 7962 Oct 2017 #25

Context greeny2323 Oct 2017 #9

That is no excuse to use nukes Not Ruth Oct 2017 #11

US military loves to kill people of color Not Ruth Oct 2017 #10

The use of nukes on japan had nothing to do with their skin color rather it had to do with cstanleytech Oct 2017 #13

We never would have used nukes against white people Not Ruth Oct 2017 #14

Hopefully we never find out if thats true. nt cstanleytech Oct 2017 #17

According to General Groves, FDR considered the possibility being alarmed by the German... Marengo Oct 2017 #19

You conveniently forget the Cuban missile crisis & White Russians who almost fried 7962 Oct 2017 #23

BINGO! Just as we never call white terrorists. Subconscious white supremacy. brush Oct 2017 #54

No, it was all about the Russians localroger Oct 2017 #38

From what I read they were at an impasse over that because they were trying to save face cstanleytech Oct 2017 #56

The Japanese were trying to sue for peace through Russia localroger Oct 2017 #59

Once a country has nukes . . . Richard D Oct 2017 #12

Why wouldn't they be? Bradical79 Oct 2017 #15

Every country should have them, or No country should have them. IMHO nt Chalco Oct 2017 #16

Ya but the problem is a lack of trust, our government does not trust cstanleytech Oct 2017 #18

Exactly. But...one can dream. nt Chalco Oct 2017 #26

Absolutely and completely disagree ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #40

Traitorous! KPN Oct 2017 #20

ROFL malaise Oct 2017 #61

Because the more counties who have them, jmg257 Oct 2017 #21

There's no way you could reliably get rid of all nukes. 7962 Oct 2017 #22

For the same reason abusers don't want other people to build their own strength. Nay Oct 2017 #24

Exceptionalism. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #27

Because America hordes the assholes. Corvo Bianco Oct 2017 #28

Very excellent question.. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #29

### NurseJackie Oct 2017 #30

And what country that has killed millions of civilians on foreign soil Rustynaerduwell Oct 2017 #31

You agree ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #41

Not one existed until the US started the loot and plunder in the ME for oil - get real - most of malaise Oct 2017 #43

That's simply not true ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #46

Huh? Who financed the Mujahideen? malaise Oct 2017 #48

Timing is all off on your post ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #50

Whatever n/t malaise Oct 2017 #51

That's a persuasive response ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #52

Yours didn't persuade me either malaise Oct 2017 #53

Seems that we rarely persuade folks on the Internet ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #55

Same here malaise Oct 2017 #57

When Shrub described the "axis of evil" justgamma Oct 2017 #32

We never would have invaded Iraq if they had nukes, or even a creditable Army, Air Force, Navy, etc. Hoyt Oct 2017 #33

So Hoyt ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #42

Your view on nukes and killing innocent women and children is as bad as Hoyt Oct 2017 #47

Hoyt, seems you can't answer a simple question ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #49

The simple answer is, Japan was surrounded and beaten. Two nukes were not needed. Hoyt Oct 2017 #58

You are consistent with the personal attacks ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #60

Christ, you gunners are obtuse. Two was two too many. You probably support internment Hoyt Oct 2017 #62

More personal attacks by Hoyt! ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #63

Sadly that's the truth malaise Oct 2017 #44

Nukes have become the worlds Second Amendment Right bronxiteforever Oct 2017 #35

Very well said malaise Oct 2017 #45

Truth be told. denbot Oct 2017 #37