Enough with the scolding please.

[LiberalLovinLug]

20. Its probably because you defeat your defense by using a non sequitur argument. It looks disengenuous

Jill Stein, Susan Sarandon's are completely different, completely 180 from Alex Jones and Donald Trump. So when you lump them all together as enemies in the same basket you come off looking quite uninformed.

Looking at just the politicians of the two groups, Stein and Trump.
I shouldn't have to list what is on the Green Party platform. You can look it up. They stand for most every Democrat party policy. The only difference is they go further. They are much more militant about tackling climate change for example. And for getting dirty big money out of campaigns. I would dare anyone on DU to find something they really disagree with on their policy page.

Trump...well we all know that Trump stands for everything the Democrats do not. He is in the process of pissing on Obama's bed and dismantling every good thing he started. And would not be caught dead endorsing anything Stein put out there or Sarandon advocated for.


The other group, the advocates. Sarandon and Jones:

Sarandon has been one of the most vocal progressively political activists in her acting career. She has marched with women's groups, supported Cindy Sheehan. She has advocated monitoring US elections for fairness. She was very vocal during the Iraq War under W Bush. Occupy. Code Pink. And more. But she is more radically left than the slow moving establishment Democratic party and out of frustration she supports the Green party because her belief is that the Democrats, by moving too slowly on progressive issues IHO, is more of a facilitator of the status quo and believes that one should vote their conscience and personal principles above over-all strategic voting...no matter what the consequence.

Alex Jones on the other hand is a piece of shit liar that has his own CT "performance art" show. He is fully imbedded in Trump's cabal and has zero empathy for any liberal concern that Sarandon, Stein, or Democrats would champion.


So by listing them all together in one pot of soup, you lose your audience because, out of emotion and anger, you muddle your argument with a laziness of sorts. When in fact they are completely different adversaries, and must be fought off in completely different ways.

Trump and Jones are destructive enemies and must be wiped from the earth. They will never change and are only in it for themselves, and want to destroy, smear, and lie about any idea that encourages a more egalitarian society.

The way to fight off or at least dampen the messages from Stein and Sarandon is to pull the table cloth out from under them. A good start is advocating for the $15 min wage. Free college tuition. Maternity leave. Public financing of elections. Working for single payer universal healthcare. You cannot fight these two with a hammer, but with a blanket.

But overall, what is distasteful, illogical, and disingenuous to some is that you equate those who's only difference in being TOO progressive for your likes, with two who are fascist scum. Kind of like the right calling Obama a communist and a fascist in one sentence. Does not compute.