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157. Lots of responses.

Reply to woo me with science (Reply #133)

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 05:39 PM

Jul 2012

Lots of attempts at personal swipes, insults, circle-guffawing, and diversion.

Not a single acknowledgement of the very clear record on trade and outsourcing.

This entire thread has been....I initially wrote "illuminating," but actually it is a very tired rehash of what we all have seen a hundred times before.

Denial doesn't work anymore. A million American schoolchildren are now homeless, and we keep excusing the corporate assaults. It has never been more important to face reality and our responsibility to demand better.

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President Obama's Disingenuous Attack on Outsourcing [View all] brentspeak Jul 2012 OP

Oh look ProSense Jul 2012 #1

Well done... SidDithers Jul 2012 #7

GE's outsourcer-in-chief Jeffrey Immelt is a "Rightwing Source". Romulox Jul 2012 #9

Conor Friedersdorf is Jeffrey Immelt's nom de plume?... SidDithers Jul 2012 #11

Brilliant duck, even for you, Sid. I guess you can't defend Mr. Immelt. I wouldn't try, either. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #14

I never mentioned Immelt... SidDithers Jul 2012 #17

*I* did. "Discussion" board, remember? nt Romulox Jul 2012 #20

Yeah, I know *you* did... SidDithers Jul 2012 #24

NNN0LHI is obviously wrong. YOU are the best! nt Romulox Jul 2012 #26

I think they are talking about a duck named Sid. Maraya1969 Jul 2012 #155

Was Freidersdorf wrong that Immelt is in the President's cabinet? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #116

Yes...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #123

Why did this administration appoint Republicans to the President's cabinet? Are you saying sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #131

And Throw In Wall St. Casino Insiders Iggy Jul 2012 #227

Okay, Let's look at what Immelt has recommended recently ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #170

Letting Global Oil Cartels have more access to our resources is not 'outsourcing'? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #229

Your concerns are noted ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #230

Right on... Tippy Jul 2012 #13

And the question then becomes when will "enough be enough"? Short, sweet, and to the point. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #46

Riiight... Can't knock down the message, so you go after the messenger. RC Jul 2012 #109

You are the best ProSense NNN0LHI Jul 2012 #10

Best WHAT? Romulox Jul 2012 #15

... woo me with science Jul 2012 #31

So.. you're not against RW policy from 'dems', just offended that someone you consider RW Edweird Jul 2012 #34

No ProSense Jul 2012 #42

FUDrs work thsi board HARD! Thx for your insght, I don't think I can believe them at all... uponit7771 Jul 2012 #61

How's that renegotiation of NAFTA coming along? Edweird Jul 2012 #65

I am stating clearly (no need to imply) that I am against RW policy without regard to the source. Edweird Jul 2012 #64

So ProSense Jul 2012 #68

There is no 'cheering' by me here. Edweird Jul 2012 #70

"The fact that it's a RW asshole shilling from Romney should be enough." brentspeak Jul 2012 #211

Stirs the shit and runs away. grantcart Jul 2012 #127

Typical MO emulatorloo Jul 2012 #163

And the rec list is a who's who JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #128

+1 Bobbie Jo Jul 2012 #220

The denial needs to stop. woo me with science Jul 2012 #2

Don't forget SOS DLC Hillary and outsourcing antigop Jul 2012 #93

Excellent link. Thank you. woo me with science Jul 2012 #105

+1000. Thanks,woo. n/t antigop Jul 2012 #110

Sometimes the truth is very painful and there are many here that are very disappointed Bandit Jul 2012 #3

and the ones pointing out the truth are called "haters" or "saboteurs". n/t antigop Jul 2012 #95

This sounds FUDr-ish, at the least assume Obama is a dictator and congress is something he can uponit7771 Jul 2012 #4

Wrong. The assumption is that Obama could have appointed people eridani Jul 2012 #218

That is the issue they will dance around without actually addressing Dragonfli Jul 2012 #221

It's really not too surprising you champion a guy who crapped on OW n/t Sheepshank Jul 2012 #5

fortunately Obama isn't talking about himself Enrique Jul 2012 #6

Well, I don't have any way to refute this. Is it ok to cast aspersions against the OP, instead? Romulox Jul 2012 #8

Surely people are not gullible enough to fall for this obvious a ruse? Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #101

I appreciate the importance of discussing this issue Tom Rinaldo Jul 2012 #12

Absolutely not. Election year is the MOST important time to speak up. woo me with science Jul 2012 #16

The OP ProSense Jul 2012 #21

Any port in a storm...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #25

Ignore the policy. Attack the person. woo me with science Jul 2012 #27

Occupy! n/t ProSense Jul 2012 #29

an anti-occupy shill for Romney bigtree Jul 2012 #43

You are full of shit if you think it is "OK" to cozy up to a right wing shill emulatorloo Jul 2012 #142

Sniff. You may be on to something n/t politicasista Jul 2012 #141

Absolutely not? brush Jul 2012 #28

"You're for Romney, I suppose." woo me with science Jul 2012 #30

"Good grief"? ProSense Jul 2012 #33

You deserve that. I have never seen you post anything anti-Republican emulatorloo Jul 2012 #145

You asked, "Do you want repug Romney appointing their replacements with more right wingers like AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #86

Bullshit. Which Obama appointee = Scalia or Thomas? emulatorloo Jul 2012 #156

You are mistaken. Obama did not appoint either Scalia or Thomas. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #174

"I'ld rather that Obama would do that." Which is bullshit speculation that emulatorloo Jul 2012 #176

No matter how many times you use the word "bullshit," Kagan's positions on criminal cases is coming AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #188

Kagan was your attempt to change the subject from me calling you on your speculative bullshit. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #192

I was and am a strong supporter of OWS Tom Rinaldo Jul 2012 #35

Tom is talking about election TOS. DevonRex Jul 2012 #54

Thank you for your post..it is right on.. Tippy Jul 2012 #19

True, the choice is not Bernie Sanders or Obama, it is Romney or Obama karynnj Jul 2012 #72

So now Brentspeak is bringing a RWer's attacks DevonRex Jul 2012 #18

he has some rather putrid shoes to fill, doesn't he? dionysus Jul 2012 #37

Yes he does! Got Febreeze? DevonRex Jul 2012 #40

But for how much longer? This is against Skinner's own mission statement. How much longer? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #49

I guess it depends DevonRex Jul 2012 #52

Yeah. Using the Weekly Standard was kinda obvious...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #55

Hey Sid DevonRex Jul 2012 #57

But with or without the use of rightwing sources, Skinner has to have recognized the pattern. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #77

ITA. DevonRex Jul 2012 #84

"The horrible thing about the Two Minutes Hate was not that one was obliged to act a part..." Romulox Jul 2012 #82

Sounds like projection emulatorloo Jul 2012 #180

I don't think it's disingenuous if he's trying to do something about the problem. RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #22

Well said! nt One of the 99 Jul 2012 #73

Wasn't that promised in 2008? How's the progress on that? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #90

I agree it's probably not going anywhere. RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #96

Then going back to your origional statement in which you said that you don't think it's disingenuous AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #98

Your logic fails me. RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #104

It's promised every election season, woo me with science Jul 2012 #100

Right on time! BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #23

3rd way/new 'dem' garbage is about RW policy. This and the individual mandate are prime examples. Edweird Jul 2012 #32

Yup. The Third Way was never a grass roots phenomenon. woo me with science Jul 2012 #41

Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #91

BBI called. he wants his shtick back. dionysus Jul 2012 #36

*snort* DevonRex Jul 2012 #39

!! Bobbie Jo Jul 2012 #44

LOL FSogol Jul 2012 #47

!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #50

rofl Coexist Jul 2012 #66

Bwah! BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #71

Thanks for this reminder! MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #167

Post right wing sources to attack President Obama and this is what I see/hear stevenleser Jul 2012 #38

I stopped reading at "Conor Friedersdorf" GarroHorus Jul 2012 #45

Romney must really be having a bad week!!! JoePhilly Jul 2012 #48

"Obama's really on our side, you dumb old lefties!" Iggo Jul 2012 #51

Unless Kucinich or Nader is running... am I to assume the purists are voting for Romney??? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #58

Diebold AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #92

Oh boy. Do we have to do this EVERY election??? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #53

Happens every time the Dems have a good week. Clockwork DevonRex Jul 2012 #56

brent's been campaigning against obama for about 4 years now. dionysus Jul 2012 #59

this article will have zero impact on the election Enrique Jul 2012 #79

So ProSense Jul 2012 #81

it's not bullshit Enrique Jul 2012 #85

Ah ProSense Jul 2012 #87

k/r emilyg Jul 2012 #60

Are you going to vote for Obama ProSense Jul 2012 #62

I always vote. emilyg Jul 2012 #74

That's not what I asked, but OK. n/t ProSense Jul 2012 #75

if past is prologue, I'd say no AtomicKitten Jul 2012 #83

oh, great find! Especially because of DLC Hillary's position on outsourcing antigop Jul 2012 #113

The hypocrisy does boggle the mind. AtomicKitten Jul 2012 #115

Explains a great deal! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #168

What is this, the DU Committee on Un-American Activities? girl gone mad Jul 2012 #106

It was ProSense Jul 2012 #107

Looks that way, doesn't it? Skip Intro Jul 2012 #210

Had you asked that of me, I'd have said Skip Intro Jul 2012 #209

Why are you attacking THE Democratic candidate during a presidential campaign?? kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #63

This isn't going to be popular here - Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2012 #67

+1000. n/t antigop Jul 2012 #114

Gee, I wonder what Kark Rove and Dick Cheney have to say on this subject! Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #69

K n R. Apparently our side is as susceptible to candidates' pandering as theirs. Lionessa Jul 2012 #76

How to ProSense Jul 2012 #78

How DARE you post this? Now let me tell you about my brand new KIA SOUL! Romulox Jul 2012 #80

It was the dancing woodchucks that got him. Edweird Jul 2012 #102

Shouldn't that be KIA Seoul? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #193

your obsession with mineralman is bizarre.... dionysus Jul 2012 #206

lol Union Scribe Jul 2012 #214

So what's the solution? Stay home, don't vote? Vote for Robbedme? Zalatix Jul 2012 #88

A week of Bain really hit home, didn't it? nt msanthrope Jul 2012 #89

Better believe it!... SidDithers Jul 2012 #122

Is that a threat? MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #172

... SidDithers Jul 2012 #183

For some, as you can readily see, speaking the truth is overrated. But I thank you. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #94

For some, ProSense Jul 2012 #97

If there is to be a choice between the truth and disingenuous ad hominem attacks on truth tellers, AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #99

And ProSense Jul 2012 #103

Thanks for the link. Petrushka Jul 2012 #108

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #111

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #112

Why is a Registered Republican in a Democratic President's cabinet? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #117

Well, ProSense Jul 2012 #118

Don't let little things like facts get in the way of a good outrage...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #119

If I were you, I would take that advice myself. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #130

Don't the goalposts get heavy... SidDithers Jul 2012 #159

I wouldn't know, but if you say so I will accept your experienced opinion. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #175

THANK! YOU!!! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #120

HEY!1! stop yelling! shouting hurts my ears.. why thems.. dionysus Jul 2012 #124

You big bully. You're in the "president's cabinet", aren't you? Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #125

but if I make a declarative statement Bobbie Jo Jul 2012 #121

That's why they hate and disparage the "blue links"! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #126

Um, no. I like the 'blue links'. So I'll ask again, why did this administration appoint Republicans sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #134

How dare someone attempt to shore up their post with links!1!1 treestar Jul 2012 #195

Especially when those "blue links" open up a can of you know what! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #198

Yes, facts do come in handy especially when there are those who try to deflect from sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #136

Awkward backpedaling Bobbie Jo Jul 2012 #139

"Immelt joins Obama's kitchen-CEO cabinet" sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #149

"Obama Names Three Republican Cabinet Officers" sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #129

Are you serious? ProSense Jul 2012 #132

My question was 'why did this administration appoint Republicans to his cabinet' sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #138

Well. ProSense Jul 2012 #140

"Immelt joins Obama's kitchen-CEO cabinet" sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #143

Excuse me ProSense Jul 2012 #150

Can't bring yourself to answer the question. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #154

"kitchen-CEO cabinet" ProSense Jul 2012 #165

You really can't answer, can you. Why is that, denial or evasiveness? Dragonfli Jul 2012 #216

Sabrina, give up. kurtzapril4 Jul 2012 #160

Yeah, ProSense Jul 2012 #164

Are you reading impaired? Dragonfli Jul 2012 #217

True, but I am astounded by what has been revealed in this thread. From the same people sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #228

Wow, that's a remarkably unwarranted celebration you are having there with your friends. woo me with science Jul 2012 #133

Occupy! ProSense Jul 2012 #135

Prosense, didn't you know that squatting in parks and disavowing politics is the wave of the future? dionysus Jul 2012 #144

So, back to the topic you are trying so hard NOT to address. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #152

If they are really no different, then what difference does it make? treestar Jul 2012 #196

You said that, not I. I am a Democrat because I despise Republicans and do not want them in sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #199

Individual Republicans may be capable of doing a job, like Huntsman or Gates treestar Jul 2012 #200

I, as a Democrat, more than 'tend to leave Republicans out and to exclude them as they do to us'. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #202

What has Gates lied about? treestar Jul 2012 #219

Why do you always resort to personal attacks treestar? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #223

What personal attack treestar Jul 2012 #231

In everything ProSense Jul 2012 #153

If you're interested, ProSense Jul 2012 #137

Game - set - match emulatorloo Jul 2012 #146

So you too agree with Dems appointing Republicans to positions of power after we throw them out? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #162

Sabrina - lets have a nice discussion without "litmus tests" as to who is a "better" Democrat. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #166

We disagree. Gates is a war monger and a liar. No Democrat should appoint someone sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #179

It is ok to disagree. As to your original question, long tradition of appointees from another party emulatorloo Jul 2012 #189

Yes, I am aware, and even support, cooperation between the two parties. But we are talking about sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #204

More killer "blue links". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #173

what's "desperate" is, the "dems" who are so upset that obama's going to have another 4 years, they dionysus Jul 2012 #148

Basically, the ideologues are scrambling for a new narrative. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #151

Same little flailing fists every time, too. DevonRex Jul 2012 #158

Lots of responses. woo me with science Jul 2012 #157

Nice try. We "get" it. emulatorloo Jul 2012 #169

So what's the endgame, buddy? emulatorloo Jul 2012 #147

he does have a point. Democrats have supported outsourcing and predatory capitalism. However, if I Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #161

More like ... Disingenuous Attack on Obama by Right Wing. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #171

It's outright attempts at suppression, and against the TOS. I don't get it. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #177

I like mocking this nonsense, so I'm ok if it stands ... JoePhilly Jul 2012 #182

Sign me up for "the mocking". Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #185

You think very little of Democrats. Why is that? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #191

I did not take the position you ascribe to me, but its a nice strawman. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #224

You were doing okay up to your last paragraph, which is something you apparently made up sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #225

"Dems Stay Home!" emulatorloo Jul 2012 #184

The good news is that we know that Skinner does have a breaking point. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #186

Ha! treestar Jul 2012 #194

Hey tree! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2012 #197

Hi Tar! treestar Jul 2012 #201

My view ... as Obama's reelection becomes more assured ... JoePhilly Jul 2012 #187

Agreed. n/t emulatorloo Jul 2012 #190

Agreed...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #205

Your quoting from a guy who has said he "leans right" Blue_Roses Jul 2012 #178

I don't care if his actions match his rhetoric or not right now ibegurpard Jul 2012 #181

Drive-by, turd in the punchbowl... SidDithers Jul 2012 #203

So again, you have not explained this. Why do you support putting Republicans in sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #207

Hey sabrina, is Immelt in the cabinet?...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #208

Hey Sid, why won't answer the question? Do you support Republicans being given sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #212

"Or are you disputing the fact that Immelt was appointed to this president's cabinet? ".. SidDithers Jul 2012 #213

Why so much game-playing to avoid answering a simple question? sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #222

So, who will you be voting for? Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #215

Correct: NAFTA Iggy Jul 2012 #226