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cthulu2016

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51. A few observations
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 06:41 PM
Jul 2012

First, the piece is not a CNN article. CNN i-report online picks up weird stories for the heck of it. This one is from The American Reporter website and it is a flack piece for BLP, not any usual lind of journalism. Essentially a BLP press release disguised as a news article.

It does not note, for instance, that BLP has made the same predictions abut what they would do 'next year' for 20 straight years. And the hottest claims in the article are sourced to the BLP web-site.

The scientists quoted are not evidence of anything in particular... creationist websites usually have a couple of similar PHDs weighing in. Note that Dr. Weinberg's name links to the glowing bio of Dr. Weinberg on the BLP website.

The problem with hydrino theory is simple. We have never observed hydrinos. The most common element in the universe has a marvelous alternative form, and it is easy to get it into that form (as opposed to requiring temperatures equivalent to the big bang, or being on the surface of a black hole or something) but nobody has ever detected the form.

And this guy has never seen fit to show any hydrinos to anyone, nor any compounds formed with hydrinos. He says that is to protect his secrets... but what secrets? He has already published what hydrinos are, how they are formed, what unique compounds they make with other elements, the energy released in the formation of a hydrino...

It is all out there. Anyone who wanted to steal his work has been given all the information they need. They only thing nobody has been given is a sample of an actual hydrino... a thing that would not be giving away a secret, but that cannot be done because hydrinos do not exist.

Classic perpetual-motion con-man. These people are often self-deluded and end up faking data to show the bigger truth they "know" is out there... they think their fabrications are actually truer than the truth would be. They end up faking demonstrations to attract investors so they can get the funds to do the real demonstrations that they just know will work. Sad stuff.

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The Water Engine [View all] cthulu2016 Jul 2012 OP
The entire water engine story... jberryhill Jul 2012 #1
aarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! HereSince1628 Jul 2012 #6
The problem with the air engine is it runs on carbon monoxide extracted from the air. rug Jul 2012 #13
Actually, the air engine I've seen online runs on compressed air jmowreader Jul 2012 #20
Not as much as it takes to compress water jberryhill Jul 2012 #27
All you have to do is leave a pail out in winter. rug Jul 2012 #30
It expands down to 4 Celsius jberryhill Jul 2012 #32
First you have to convert it to a gas 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #45
Thomas Newcomen, is that you? jberryhill Jul 2012 #47
But... Xyzse Jul 2012 #42
And it's all a conspiracy against the Perpetual Motion Machine. trof Jul 2012 #50
Most "believers" do not think too deeply. Many people do not have critical thinking skills. n-t Logical Jul 2012 #2
Though this is different.... it is almost the same. 2on2u Jul 2012 #3
Blacklight Power is... amazing jberryhill Jul 2012 #7
There's his profit model right there. Zalatix Jul 2012 #14
This truly is amazing. 2on2u Jul 2012 #29
Not one watt-hour of energy produced jberryhill Jul 2012 #31
Not one street light until Edison figgered it out.... right? n/t 2on2u Jul 2012 #48
Not at all comparable jberryhill Jul 2012 #49
A few observations cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #51
DUgle "Blacklight Power" in the E&E and Science forums ... eppur_se_muova Jul 2012 #53
Very well said. JFN1 Jul 2012 #4
The things that get "lost" are typically through obsolescence jberryhill Jul 2012 #10
A remarkable method that doesn't occur to us... cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #19
And some things get lost to history with good reason. Early Color TV. wandy Jul 2012 #52
Forget the water engine hooey edhopper Jul 2012 #5
Substitute "Cure for 'any disease'" GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #8
Yes, but with a few wrinkles cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #21
Arthur Eddington, astronomer, spoke about this. longship Jul 2012 #9
and so it goes. GeorgeGist Jul 2012 #11
So let's talk about money and imagination jberryhill Jul 2012 #12
I'm not sure that's all true Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #15
Read "Guns, Germs and Steel" progressoid Jul 2012 #17
Been on my reading list forever Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #24
"Connections" is another classic British series jberryhill Jul 2012 #28
I considered getting into this in the OP cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #22
And it follows then Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #25
We do not disagree on that cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #44
What you really need as a requisite to the development of guns is cowardice 1-Old-Man Jul 2012 #34
Most idiotic post of the day...possibly the week. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #41
One of the postulates in GG&S.... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #40
"Third, a conspiracy to suppress knowledge of something everyone in the world wants is an absurdity" lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #16
That proves the point. cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #23
The knowledge may not be suppressed, but the application certainly is. nt lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #35
Bullshit jberryhill Jul 2012 #36
"Bullshit" suggests that you have some reason to disbelieve what I said. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #37
You aren't gettting the point jberryhill Jul 2012 #38
That's not a point of anything in the op. It's not germane at all. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #39
There is no US patent issued in 1990 which is in force today jberryhill Jul 2012 #43
I'm not saying is was aliens... progressoid Jul 2012 #18
Also this Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #26
DU rec... SidDithers Jul 2012 #33
I imagine it's the same kind of mentality that supports homeopathy 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #46
Short version: water is the ASH/EXHAUST produced by burning fuel. eppur_se_muova Jul 2012 #54
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