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StevieM

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71. Iowa is historically a battleground state. And they wouldn't have objected had it not been for

Sun Oct 15, 2017, 10:03 PM

Oct 2017

the Comey intervention. In other words, you can argue that she failed to accept the damage that was done by the corrupt FBI rigging the race, for a second time. But that is not the same argument that you seem to be making.

Mook and Company couldn't have done too bad a job if she was about to win by a wide margin until the FBI intervened on behalf of the GOP--for the second time.

Hillary actually had more staffers in Wisconsin than Obama did in 2012. Meanwhile, Trump had a lot less than Romney did. More staffers isn't what she needed to win. What she needed was an FBI that was not launching an assault on democracy.

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Hillary Clinton is the greatest "candidate" who ever ran for the WH. or the most qualified [View all] Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 OP

Indeed...both Clintons are great people. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #1

I wouldn't say that BainsBane Oct 2017 #2

Yeah, you are right, i will edit Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author karynnj Oct 2017 #6

By her own admission she was not a great candidate. Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #4

Her admission is incorrect. She was a great candidate who ran a great race. StevieM Oct 2017 #5

I hope Mr. Comey considers his actions every single f*ing day. susanna Oct 2017 #23

The real HRC would have been great Exultant Democracy Oct 2017 #7

She is responsible for picking her staff Kentonio Oct 2017 #35

Sure, buck stop there. But Exultant Democracy Oct 2017 #44

I'm torn on it Kentonio Oct 2017 #45

The book Shattered is a ridiculous account of 2016. They describe a campaign that nobody from the StevieM Oct 2017 #51

Sorry, but my reading was extremely different to yours. Kentonio Oct 2017 #63

She restaffed with a lot of people, including Obama people, after 2008. StevieM Oct 2017 #53

Wait she fired Mills and Huma, shocking Exultant Democracy Oct 2017 #70

Iowa is historically a battleground state. And they wouldn't have objected had it not been for StevieM Oct 2017 #71

He raped our election and is raping our country ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #8

I share your angst but FFS! slumcamper Oct 2017 #9

Wise words. Ken Burch Oct 2017 #10

Indeed. (((deeeep))) sigh. slumcamper Oct 2017 #12

We are with the program. We are Hillary Democrats and will remain so leftofcool Oct 2017 #30

NEVER .........you get with the program. stonecutter357 Oct 2017 #32

Amen. shanny Oct 2017 #37

I am not going to recognize the legitimacy of James Comey turning the page so that he could write StevieM Oct 2017 #56

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #11

I'm still heartbroken. Hillary makes me so proud to be a Democrat. NurseJackie Oct 2017 #13

Summoning strength from a broken heart is hard. slumcamper Oct 2017 #17

What are you trying to convey by putting the word "candidate" in scare quotes? Ken Burch Oct 2017 #14

She is the best candidate that was ever on the ballot, ever. "Scare quotes"? George II Oct 2017 #15

when people put quotes around a single word like that, it often implies that there's some reason Ken Burch Oct 2017 #16

what purpose? Skittles Oct 2017 #20

THIS (with fifty UP arrows which can't be borne these days) susanna Oct 2017 #24

You're reading way to much into this. George II Oct 2017 #65

OMG George II Skittles Oct 2017 #66

Sorry, there have been so many responses I hope I didn't make that mistake! George II Oct 2017 #67

I thought I was on Democratic Underground. This is fucking sad. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author George II Oct 2017 #18

I kind of like FDR left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #19

Good point. shanny Oct 2017 #39

And Obama. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #49

And I still like Jimmy Carter left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #61

Carter got railroaded so badly. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #69

ICAM! I'm still grieving, and will grieve for as long as I need to grieve lunamagica Oct 2017 #21

Favorite Democratic nominee of my lifetime, but some huge blunders Awsi Dooger Oct 2017 #22

You are getting into some hyperbole there. She is terrible in the role of Candidate. phleshdef Oct 2017 #25

We the people who did not fall for Russia propaganda delisen Oct 2017 #28

Y'know, there's something about that: shanny Oct 2017 #40

Nope. KTM Oct 2017 #41

Sadly true. shanny Oct 2017 #42

Nope. Until there are apologies made from the right and the left, we will remain where we are. leftofcool Oct 2017 #31

You demand apologies from the left Kentonio Oct 2017 #36

I am NEVER going to back off from supporting Gore, Kerry, and HRC. LisaM Oct 2017 #26

+1 For sure - I totally agree FakeNoose Oct 2017 #27

drumpf family grifters (us, us and more us) democratisphere Oct 2017 #29

she was the most experienced of any candidtate ever... samnsara Oct 2017 #33

Actually, she wasn't. Scruffy1 Oct 2017 #59

She and her supporters did a fine job... Mike Nelson Oct 2017 #34

The personality cult stuff is extremely tiring Kentonio Oct 2017 #38

She was not the most qualified ever ms liberty Oct 2017 #43

...nor was she the best candidate ever. brooklynite Oct 2017 #46

What were the serious errors? Not being able to control FB so they could go on and lie Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #48

No--they assumed that if you voted for Obama, you'd vote for her... brooklynite Oct 2017 #64

+100. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #50

If certain folks hadnt spent years lying about her, oh well. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #55

John Kerry and Al Gore were the most qualified - HRC was up there, but not 'the most'. blm Oct 2017 #52

What about Obama, Thomas Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR, JFK??? Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #54

this heaven05 Oct 2017 #57

Thanks, Eliot. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #58

I weep for the opportunity we lost NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #60

K&R Gothmog Oct 2017 #62

I have tremendous respect for Ms. Clinton, but I wouldn't go that far. NNadir Oct 2017 #68