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KelleyKramer

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Mon Oct 16, 2017, 01:05 AM Oct 2017

The 60 Minutes piece on opioids was an eye opener for me [View all]

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The small town clinic ordering millions of pills, those places are nothing more than dope pushers

I only have a few personal experiences with those kind of drugs. A few years ago I had a bad work accident and ended up in ICU for three days.

When I went home they gave me a scrip for a full 30 days of really strong pills. There is no way I needed that many, I took maybe 4 in the first two days. I don't remember what they were but about 6 months later a friend saw them and said they sell on the street for about $8 to $10 a pill.

And a couple months after the accident I had to have surgery. And when I woke up in the OR, one of the first things they asked was if I wanted some oxicontin for the pain and I quickly said no. Then he asked if I wanted any dilaudid (sp?) and I emphatically said NO, that's even worse!

And he said.. well, you can take it just the one time. I told him that is EXACTLY what the heroin dealers on the street say!

He didn't ask me anything after that

Ever since then I have had a theory, with no proof, but a theory...

These dope companies are playing a numbers game. Sending me home with a big bottle of pills, they know a certain number of people will actually take them all, and many of those people will get addicted and become long term high paying 'customers'

Same thing with the strong stuff at the hospital. They know a certain number of people can take that stuff just a couple times and will become addicted to their high priced 'product'. So that one is literally a numbers game... the more people you give them to the more people you get addicted

Another interesting thing happened about a year before all that. My father had major back surgery. I was with him in the hospital room that first night and the doctor kept coming in and asking why my dad had not hit the button to use the heavy pain killers.
My dad kept telling him 'I don't need it'. The doctor came and asked that about 4 times, then the 5th time the doctor just leaned over my father and punched the button for him anyway.

I remember thinking what the hell was that all about, and immediately thought the doctor was getting something out of that, some kind of kick back. Maybe not cash, but some sort vacation trip or high value perk. The dope dealers were giving that doctor something, it was obvious from his persistence

And again, I have no proof, this is just my personal speculation

The whole damned thing is nothing but a dope pushing racket


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Edit to add....


Video of 60 Minutes segment


https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/the-whistleblower/


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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-dea-agent-opioid-crisis-fueled-by-drug-industry-and-congress/


Ex-DEA agent: Opioid crisis fueled by drug industry and Congress

Whistleblower Joe Rannazzisi says drug distributors pumped opioids into U.S. communities -- knowing that people were dying -- and says industry lobbyists and Congress derailed the DEA's efforts to stop it


In the midst of the worst drug epidemic in American history, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's ability to keep addictive opioids off U.S. streets was derailed -- that according to Joe Rannazzisi, one of the most important whistleblowers ever interviewed by 60 Minutes. Rannazzisi ran the DEA's Office of Diversion Control, the division that regulates and investigates the pharmaceutical industry. Now in a joint investigation by 60 Minutes and The Washington Post, Rannazzisi tells the inside story of how, he says, the opioid crisis was allowed to spread -- aided by Congress, lobbyists, and a drug distribution industry that shipped, almost unchecked, hundreds of millions of pills to rogue pharmacies and pain clinics providing the rocket fuel for a crisis that, over the last two decades, has claimed 200,000 lives.



JOE RANNAZZISI: This is an industry that's out of control. What they wanna do, is do what they wanna do, and not worry about what the law is. And if they don't follow the law in drug supply, people die. That's just it. People die.


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Surprised the network would run this story on Prime Time gyroscope Oct 2017 #1
Exactly right. I agree. Duppers Oct 2017 #14
I think Big Beer sees legal weed as a worse threat jmowreader Oct 2017 #19
The real problem is doctors are under trained in pain management. HopeAgain Oct 2017 #29
The other side is that there are lots of people who will feel they are not getting the Hoyt Oct 2017 #2
That is the side of the issue that I am pissed off about. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #3
Yup. Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #5
I get it. When you are in pain, and perhaps under-insured, it's tough going to Hoyt Oct 2017 #6
well, some would say that it is better for 100 guilty people to go free, than for a single innocent TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #9
unfortunately it is not that simple. Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #32
i know exactly what you're talking about. most people here literally don't care who suffers agonizi TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #7
Staying ahead of the pain is critical to healing quickly Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #4
agreed; many here do not realize how important pain control is to your overall health, and a lot TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #8
+1 Lucinda Oct 2017 #16
Well. Good for you for being someone who can experience back surgery pain-free kcr Oct 2017 #10
So if some people need them, then they should be given to everyone? KelleyKramer Oct 2017 #11
For surgery? kcr Oct 2017 #12
That says heroin DEALER, not user KelleyKramer Oct 2017 #13
But you were declining the.. Oh, never mind. kcr Oct 2017 #15
They should be made available to everyone post-surgery, by default. Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #20
I never said they should not be available, of course they should be available post-op KelleyKramer Oct 2017 #21
You should be grateful you and your father had surgical teams Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #22
Oh I am very grateful, and thank you for reminding me KelleyKramer Oct 2017 #24
Continuing to ask is appropriate - Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #37
That's so wrong janterry Oct 2017 #28
Maybe someday a miracle will occur... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #17
This is something I heard, that insurance cos. are covering the highly addictive area51 Oct 2017 #18
My experience has been just the opposite elias7 Oct 2017 #23
If anyone feels their doctor is writing to many scripts, safeinOhio Oct 2017 #25
I agree, but janterry Oct 2017 #27
Why aren't the cops taking ever cent these companies have under safeinOhio Oct 2017 #26
Interesting. Haven't seen the piece yet. Here's a very weird element -PETS underpants Oct 2017 #30
When pain management become a right Dr's had no choice. ileus Oct 2017 #31
What about those of us who don't abuse our meds madokie Oct 2017 #33
Pardon me madokie Oct 2017 #34
It Strikes Me RobinA Oct 2017 #35
I have to disagree Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #36
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