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Ms. Toad

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20. They should be made available to everyone post-surgery, by default.
Mon Oct 16, 2017, 03:59 AM
Oct 2017

I had surgery to remove a bone - pretty painful surgery. The anesthesiologist screwed up and had to use narcan on me, which wiped out the narcotic relief from fentanyl that should have carried me through the recovery room until I hit my room. (I have confirmed with the hospital that it was a screw-up).

Because of other crazy policies, I was not given pain relief in the recovery room (they wanted me alert when I was being transported) - so I was at least an hour without narcotics in my system before they rolled me through the halls, shooting pain spikes at every seam in the uneven floors. When I arrived in my room, they asked me to grab the rails and pull myself over from the cart to the bed - using the side from which the bone had just been removed. Movement was excruiating at that point. I asked them to let me slowly figure out how to move and they grabbed the sheets, folded me in on myself in the sheets, folding freshly cut flesh against the rough edges of bone remnant.

It was at least two hours after that before they got the orders for pain meds on the floor.

So yes, opioids should be immediately available by default post-surgery. It is far better to have them, than to be in the situation I was in when I needed them and they were unavailable for at least 3 hours.

And if you are under the illusion that you will become an addict by using narcotics in the immediate post-surgery pain, they should educate you enough to ensure that you are not choosing to endure pain (which is not healthy for healing) because irrational fear of opioids has convinced you that it is safer to endure pain than to take opioids to address accute pain. If you really have a clear and realistic understanding and then decline, that should be respected. But the default should be narcotic pain relief.

I'm not saying there are no dangers, but - absent some special circumstances you have not disclosed - your reaction to the thought of using narcotics is way out of proportion to any risk related to proper post-surgical use for pain relief.

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Surprised the network would run this story on Prime Time gyroscope Oct 2017 #1
Exactly right. I agree. Duppers Oct 2017 #14
I think Big Beer sees legal weed as a worse threat jmowreader Oct 2017 #19
The real problem is doctors are under trained in pain management. HopeAgain Oct 2017 #29
The other side is that there are lots of people who will feel they are not getting the Hoyt Oct 2017 #2
That is the side of the issue that I am pissed off about. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #3
Yup. Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #5
I get it. When you are in pain, and perhaps under-insured, it's tough going to Hoyt Oct 2017 #6
well, some would say that it is better for 100 guilty people to go free, than for a single innocent TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #9
unfortunately it is not that simple. Lee-Lee Oct 2017 #32
i know exactly what you're talking about. most people here literally don't care who suffers agonizi TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #7
Staying ahead of the pain is critical to healing quickly Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #4
agreed; many here do not realize how important pain control is to your overall health, and a lot TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #8
+1 Lucinda Oct 2017 #16
Well. Good for you for being someone who can experience back surgery pain-free kcr Oct 2017 #10
So if some people need them, then they should be given to everyone? KelleyKramer Oct 2017 #11
For surgery? kcr Oct 2017 #12
That says heroin DEALER, not user KelleyKramer Oct 2017 #13
But you were declining the.. Oh, never mind. kcr Oct 2017 #15
They should be made available to everyone post-surgery, by default. Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #20
I never said they should not be available, of course they should be available post-op KelleyKramer Oct 2017 #21
You should be grateful you and your father had surgical teams Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #22
Oh I am very grateful, and thank you for reminding me KelleyKramer Oct 2017 #24
Continuing to ask is appropriate - Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #37
That's so wrong janterry Oct 2017 #28
Maybe someday a miracle will occur... KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #17
This is something I heard, that insurance cos. are covering the highly addictive area51 Oct 2017 #18
My experience has been just the opposite elias7 Oct 2017 #23
If anyone feels their doctor is writing to many scripts, safeinOhio Oct 2017 #25
I agree, but janterry Oct 2017 #27
Why aren't the cops taking ever cent these companies have under safeinOhio Oct 2017 #26
Interesting. Haven't seen the piece yet. Here's a very weird element -PETS underpants Oct 2017 #30
When pain management become a right Dr's had no choice. ileus Oct 2017 #31
What about those of us who don't abuse our meds madokie Oct 2017 #33
Pardon me madokie Oct 2017 #34
It Strikes Me RobinA Oct 2017 #35
I have to disagree Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #36
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