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3. This is a "dead heat." TPM is misrepresenting the polls, which show

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 07:53 PM

Jul 2012

a tie, the same neck and neck race it's been for a while.

When the difference is within the statistical error, then neither candidate can truthfully be said to lead the other.

At least CBS is reporting this correctly. Shame on TPM for not following its lead.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57475178-503544/obama-romney-in-dead-heat-in-presidential-race/?tag=contentMain;contentBody

CBS News) President Obama and Mitt Romney are effectively tied in the race for the presidency, according to a new CBS News/New York Times survey.
Forty-seven percent of registered voters nationwide who lean towards a candidate back Romney, while 46 percent support the president. Four percent are undecided. The one percentage point difference is within the survey's three point margin of error.

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CBS/NYT Poll: Romney Leads By 1 Point, Seen As Best To Handle The Economy [View all] CatWoman Jul 2012 OP

that's because it's bullshit. warrior1 Jul 2012 #1

Obama leads in 24 of the 27 major national polls. 1 tied. CBS poll is BS. FarLeftFist Jul 2012 #51

Remember "horse race". n/t BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #2

This is a "dead heat." TPM is misrepresenting the polls, which show pnwmom Jul 2012 #3

oh I get it ... GeorgeGist Jul 2012 #25

They're not elections, anyway. They are polls of supposedly random voters pnwmom Jul 2012 #26

Bullshit malaise Jul 2012 #4

It's incorrect. It IS bullshit, and it's within the margin of error for polling. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2012 #5

Totally contradicts the other polls. Is this DU now? Poll posts on the hour? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #6

Is this DU NOW? Curtland1015 Jul 2012 #7

oh give me a fucking break CatWoman Jul 2012 #8

CatWoman, it's not your job to understand that when the support of pnwmom Jul 2012 #13

all well in good CatWoman Jul 2012 #19

Yes, it's worrisome. But I've never thought this would be an Obama romp. pnwmom Jul 2012 #20

Yeah, question. Why are you so hostile? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #47

In a pig's eye. AsahinaKimi Jul 2012 #9

Don't forget Switzerland and Bermuda Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #42

Well, that's ProSense Jul 2012 #10

Let's see if that holds once more people see what Bain Capital has done muntrv Jul 2012 #11

The better on the economy thing will go away treestar Jul 2012 #12

Obama is crushing Mitt ..... the poll is bullshit Botany Jul 2012 #14

I've seen NONE in VA. Absolutely NONE. I canvassed in a fairly conservative area this past weekend.. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #27

nothing in my area, either. Saw two a few months go, then nothing. And I'm in a red area. n/t progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #48

And yet, they want us to believe that Obama and Robme are TIED??!?! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #56

you know, you're right CatWoman Jul 2012 #57

I see more McCain/Palin on cars Johonny Jul 2012 #34

I have seen exactly one and I kid you not TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #37

I call bullshit! LeftofObama Jul 2012 #15

First, I won't invest in any stock based on a political poll. No way. No how. LiberalAndProud Jul 2012 #16

I do not believe it. Drahthaardogs Jul 2012 #17

Complete BS. Lifelong Protester Jul 2012 #18

Outlier and the popular vote doesn't matter anyways Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #21

Let's ask the folks of Freeport, IL if Romney is better at handling the economy. muntrv Jul 2012 #22

and Marion, Indiana. n/t progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #49

How Mitt would "handle the economy." KansDem Jul 2012 #23

^^^^^THIS^^^^^ freshwest Jul 2012 #32

And the Fox poll has Obama up by 4. Jennicut Jul 2012 #24

Today it was said that Romney is outspending Obama 2 to 1 ecstatic Jul 2012 #28

Overweight the conservative votes, underweight the middle/liberal votes DJ13 Jul 2012 #29

This explains it GarroHorus Jul 2012 #30

thanks Garro CatWoman Jul 2012 #31

Actually it says land lines and cell phones were called... WI_DEM Jul 2012 #41

How many of us actually answer our cell phones if it is an unknown number? progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #50

The popular vote means nothing and the electoral college means everything. There Obama coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #33

the media is going to make hundreds of millions by keeping it close. spanone Jul 2012 #35

yup lovemydog Jul 2012 #54

It's close now, and I have no doubt that some polls will show Romney with a 1 or 2 or 3 point lead alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #36

How can a pioneer in outsourcing B Calm Jul 2012 #38

How can a party AT WAR with women even be in the running anymore? Zalatix Jul 2012 #39

Obama has gained ground then in the CBS News poll, in their previous poll Mittens led by 3 46-43 WI_DEM Jul 2012 #40

This can't possibly be true. Everyone I know supports Obama. Case closed. (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #43

Then this country deserves what it's going to get. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #44

****PLEASE FOCUS ON SWING STATES AND NOT M$M BS***** uponit7771 Jul 2012 #45

Yes, and we also need to keep our eye on tight Senate races flamingdem Jul 2012 #46

Steaming Crock of SHIT. alittlelark Jul 2012 #52

You can get 100 different results from 100 different poll rl6214 Jul 2012 #53

Meh... toddwv Jul 2012 #55

Stockholm syndrome? Initech Jul 2012 #58

Question about these polls....who do they call?? cbdo2007 Jul 2012 #59