Womens Conference runs into rough seas of their own making

[JCanete]

413. How do you interpret "party liner?" Anybody who will take the party's position, or a specific

candidates position, and no matter what it is, defend it, is a party liner. I get that sometimes there is a strategic need for this, and I've been patient. I've made allowances. There are very real questions as to whether those allowances have paid off. Did voting for the Iraq war keep Democratic Senators in power(sorry, in seats, not power)? Maybe, but that ended up being a debacle. Democrats made it less of a party line debacle. One we might have capitalized on.

A party liner is somebody who does't break from the narrative...who doesn't cover stories that are inconvenient to democrats, even if they are just as inconvenient to republicans. If the democrats aren't talking about them, this person isn't talking about them. This person is on message. If that's what you want, then cut out the middle man and just listen to the strategists in the first place.

As to establishment being derogatory...that's entirely a matter of what you value. You could be perfectly supportive of the well established democrats who are trying not to tap into the opinions of the people to change the face of Washington, but instead, have opted to try to work within the current system as it stands, in that bi-partisan wheeling and dealing fashion that supposedly gets things done, cognizant and reverent of "political realities." You could totally mount a case that that is how you get things done. That that is how you move forward. I would disagree, so establishment to me is somebody investing in a losing strategy. To you, establishment might mean something different.