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12. No problem dissing Rmoney or any church hierarchy but to brush all adherents isn't right

Wed Jul 18, 2012, 08:22 PM

Jul 2012

I'm loud and proud about what I think of the RCC (not much) yet I know that the vast majority individuals who are Catholic are decent people. The LDS/RLDS Churches have some unusual beliefs, but not any more unusual than belief in literal transubstantiation or a number of mainstream religious beliefs. The official Church hierarchy supports some terrible things (both RCC and LDS here), and condemning that hierarchy/officials is appropriate.

I've known many LDS and RLDS members who are very liberal, and don't find that at odds with their religion. I have my own colorful opinions about Smith, his Church, etc but an unwavering stand on letting people believe any damn fool thing they want (as long as they don't force it on others). Any group is made up of very good people, some very bad people, and a lot somewhere inbetween. Rmoney falls into the "very bad" camp.

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I have lost much respect for Mormons in getting to know Romney [View all] grasswire Jul 2012 OP

As a former mormon..... arbusto_baboso Jul 2012 #1

You had respect for mormons? Maybe its because some of my good friends in high school were ex-commun Erose999 Jul 2012 #2

sure, I know they are a cult and all that gibberish grasswire Jul 2012 #5

A lot of the rank and file are like that LadyHawkAZ Jul 2012 #23

I can't afford another child "just have another kid the government will pay" Rambis Jul 2012 #54

Mountain Meadows Massacre obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #58

Bbbbut they got tayvee commeitials an everythin! benld74 Jul 2012 #3

The Osmonds and that Choir did wonders for their reputation... reformist2 Jul 2012 #4

And that choir isn't even all that good. Occulus Jul 2012 #15

Some of the things the Osmonds have said in th epast few years Mopar151 Jul 2012 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author crazyjoe Jul 2012 #6

Pure anti-mormon bunk! Jayce Cox Jul 2012 #7

+1 treestar Jul 2012 #14

no, you are wrong grasswire Jul 2012 #17

Because you're calling an entire faith into question based on the actions of one member. wickerwoman Jul 2012 #22

This "one member" is a Bishop in the church _ed_ Jul 2012 #43

My 96 year old granny is Catholic. wickerwoman Jul 2012 #64

Utter nonsense _ed_ Jul 2012 #74

And the point that I made wickerwoman Jul 2012 #79

DING DING DING! KamaAina Jul 2012 #76

You're judging a group based on the activities of one treestar Jul 2012 #30

I'm not. Wife had to do a research project for a degree JanMichael Jul 2012 #49

You can't choose your gender _ed_ Jul 2012 #80

Mormons don't have a history of racism throught the organization? Like the GOP and it's "southern uponit7771 Jul 2012 #34

Mormon culture certainly does foster certain traits Sheepshank Jul 2012 #42

well said. n/t Whisp Jul 2012 #45

Grasswire doesn't owe you an apology for a thing JanMichael Jul 2012 #48

Your right Jayce Cox Jul 2012 #63

Romney doesn't represent all Mormons... soccer1 Jul 2012 #8

According to a neighbor of mine who grew up in SLC scorpiogirl Jul 2012 #9

Consider that Joseph Smith was a convicted con-artist... backscatter712 Jul 2012 #10

Right, the WHOLE thing is a huge sham Iggy Jul 2012 #28

Oh...you must be talking about the 4th version of the First Vision.... Sheepshank Jul 2012 #44

Totally agree. DCBob Jul 2012 #11

No problem dissing Rmoney or any church hierarchy but to brush all adherents isn't right REP Jul 2012 #12

I disagree atreides1 Jul 2012 #57

As an atheist I've always been pretty disrespectful of believers. rMoney takes the hypocrisy riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #13

How convenient for him lunatica Jul 2012 #24

My brother married into the LDSism. sadbear Jul 2012 #16

Jon Huntsman is a Mormon JI7 Jul 2012 #18

I could care less, the de facto organizational racism will come through him also and there's little uponit7771 Jul 2012 #37

Huntsman, by his own admission, isn't particularly active in that church Sheepshank Jul 2012 #46

I believe he is a Jack Mormon obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #59

There are good and bad people in every faith RFKHumphreyObama Jul 2012 #19

Agreed with you on that. AverageJoe90 Jul 2012 #82

I used to hang out with some Mormon kids in high school and they were very normal. limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #20

Well, consider that Tricky Dick Nixon was a Quaker... eShirl Jul 2012 #21

No.. what it means Iggy Jul 2012 #27

Thanks, that was my point. eShirl Jul 2012 #70

The pro-marriage equality Mormon contingent in the Seattle LGBT Pride March eridani Jul 2012 #25

Wow, that's really good to hear. HappyMe Jul 2012 #51

Wait, Have you read the recent Bloomberg Iggy Jul 2012 #26

Like Bill Maher put it a few weeks ago... backscatter712 Jul 2012 #61

This is a Temple Jayce Cox Jul 2012 #67

I'm not a fan of the Catholic Church either. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #68

Having done business with Mormons it seems to me that they have two sets of standards. OregonBlue Jul 2012 #29

Hahaha! sadbear Jul 2012 #31

That really is funny. Thanks for the laugh!! OregonBlue Jul 2012 #33

They are domionist at the very top of the ladder, everyone else is shit to them and they could uponit7771 Jul 2012 #36

My father was had the same experience obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #60

No less ridiculous than believing the Garden of Eden is (was) anywhere else Hippo_Tron Jul 2012 #69

i feel rmoney is a sociopath first and perhaps a morman second or third dembotoz Jul 2012 #32

The defacto racism from the organization is coming through via rMoney. the "foreign" stick is uponit7771 Jul 2012 #35

People confuse the Mormons with the Amish flamingdem Jul 2012 #38

Because 1)he's white and 2)he's Not Obama Freddie Jul 2012 #78

Did you know that Harry Reid is a Mormon? Tom Rinaldo Jul 2012 #39

A corrupt misogynistic, bigoted, racist religion, what's not to love! Marrah_G Jul 2012 #40

"I have lost much respect for Jews in getting to know Joe Lieberman." Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author JanMichael Jul 2012 #50

Sorry, I self deleted. I give up. I "got" what the poster said, JanMichael Jul 2012 #53

Jew were institutionaly racist and dominionist? NO!! Bad example uponit7771 Jul 2012 #65

"Were". The Democratic party used to be a pro-segregation, racist party. Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #66

An exact parallel unfortunately eridani Jul 2012 #71

Romney worships money get the red out Jul 2012 #52

I never had respect for their religion obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #55

think about Donnie and Marie Enrique Jul 2012 #56

So you are now basing your opinion about an entire religion on the actions of one man? MadHound Jul 2012 #62

I had a teacher who was a Mormon, one of the nicest kindest people Raine Jul 2012 #72

I think of all organized religions as cults... Bigmack Jul 2012 #73

Well Obama believes that Jesus was the Son of God, Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #75

Quite the same _ed_ Jul 2012 #81

"Do as they say, not as they do."--Jesus. Democrats_win Jul 2012 #77