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Awsi Dooger

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15. Many low profile nutcases in gambling circles
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:30 AM
Oct 2017

I'm not particularly surprised because I lived in Las Vegas for 25 years. While I wouldn't have forecast something on this scale we always believed something was possible. I distinctly remember a friend of mine named Harry isolating various guys in town and saying, "You know he could do that...walk in and blow away the entire crowd...and not think anything of it."

Initially I would make fun of the wackos and tell them how ridiculous their theories were, like my friend Ron who thought there was a secret camera inside the Caesar's Palace betting board designed to monitor him alone. But then I wised up -- circa fall 1992 -- when a few of the wackos described their obsession with guns, and size of their stash. They were paranoid about Clinton actually denying another Republican term. In that case they would have to find the nearest gun shop and buy as much as they could afford.

The oddity in this case is that Paddock was primarily a high stakes video poker machine player. I can't say I knew many of those guys. The high limit machine rooms are small and typically cater to gamblers who don't live in Las Vegas. That describes Paddock, from what I understand.

The guys I knew who played video poker did it on the quarter "full pay" machines, which were Jacks or Better machines with 9/6 pay table, as in 9 coins for full house and 6 coins for a flush. Some of the casinos actually set those machines at 101% payback or slightly above, but only with optimum play. They would gamble that people would not use optimum strategy. That was true for tourists but local wise guys would play every hand perfectly and also have a Players Card in the slot, racking up points and other benefits (comped food, etc.). Eventually the casinos severely cut back on those "full pay" machines and changed them to 8/5. That eliminated the advantage. Until Paddock I hadn't heard much about video poker in recent years, after the pay tables were changed.

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It is hard to understand how an old rich white guy pbmus Oct 2017 #1
Any theory is up for grabs, nobody knows...or at least they are saying if they do. eom Purveyor Oct 2017 #2
In psychology pbmus Oct 2017 #5
What worries me is the disappearance of The Grassy Mound Hortensis Oct 2017 #33
??? Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2017 #46
I think that's accurate True Dough Oct 2017 #3
A movie called , The Accountant... pbmus Oct 2017 #6
Is being plain evil now a mental illness? HipChick Oct 2017 #4
Evil is a religious term, overused and not descriptive enough pbmus Oct 2017 #7
Exactly MFM008 Oct 2017 #9
Well its not simple to understand mental illness... pbmus Oct 2017 #11
Thanks for your candidness. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #18
you are right MFM008 Oct 2017 #44
I was not trying to be uppity sounding... pbmus Oct 2017 #48
A lot of rage behind that decision. haele Oct 2017 #42
I'll go with yours. He was a psychotic MF who bought a lot of guns and wanted to use them. brush Oct 2017 #14
She didn't leave him. joshcryer Oct 2017 #23
We agree he was a psychopathic MF though, right? brush Oct 2017 #41
"He was a bombastic narcissistic psychopath" joshcryer Oct 2017 #21
Enough for who? whathehell Oct 2017 #26
I am truly sorry that there will never be a sufficient pbmus Oct 2017 #55
Thank you whathehell Oct 2017 #57
.... pbmus Oct 2017 #59
and I believe that's exactly the answer.. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #39
He had a jones for excess. He lost money because he needed the casino "excitement" more. Once WinkyDink Oct 2017 #8
That is an interesting angle. Willie Pep Oct 2017 #10
Or you could tell your uncles that, some say, republicans planned this... Tikki Oct 2017 #13
He cased other venues, blocked from one hotel's "shooter" suite because it was WinkyDink Oct 2017 #16
there are tons of gun humping morons, many people who do things in excess Skittles Oct 2017 #12
Everybody's different, with different tolerances, needs, cravings, levels of adrenaline. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #17
I really think you're right Locrian Oct 2017 #32
Yes, I think that's an interesting angle to. LisaM Oct 2017 #51
Many low profile nutcases in gambling circles Awsi Dooger Oct 2017 #15
People 'crack up' every day. If Americans are 'paralyzed by fear,' it shouldn't be because TrollBuster9090 Oct 2017 #19
It is not difficult...look at all the guns he had...he wanted to experience hunting people... Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #20
I had a strange thought jmowreader Oct 2017 #22
If he had any problem with finances we would have known that almost immediately. former9thward Oct 2017 #37
A video poker player won't have anything to do with the Mafia Awsi Dooger Oct 2017 #50
With a notoriously deceitful, draft-dodging casino hustler as republican "leader" Achilleaze Oct 2017 #24
It's not going to be a reason that makes any god damned sense, so what's the difference? ProfessorPlum Oct 2017 #25
Well, it WOULD help in that... Dave Starsky Oct 2017 #27
That's true ProfessorPlum Oct 2017 #31
I get your point.. whathehell Oct 2017 #36
I'm sure it makes a difference to his victims & those directly affected whathehell Oct 2017 #28
I'm interested in this ProfessorPlum Oct 2017 #30
People always seek a reason whathehell Oct 2017 #35
Berkowitz, Bundy, Speck...the list is unfortunately very long.. pbmus Oct 2017 #45
he was a gun nut JI7 Oct 2017 #29
The gun nuts are confused and quiet... doodsaq Oct 2017 #34
Haven't seen or heard about anybody "paralyzed" by fear snooper2 Oct 2017 #38
They're going to dissect part of his brain for answers. The thing that irritates me ecstatic Oct 2017 #40
His guns were talking to him, telling him to do what guns do. hunter Oct 2017 #43
What's also unsettling is that it really isn't a topic of conversation anymore. Vinca Oct 2017 #47
When you buy a lot of things, you tend to use them Yavin4 Oct 2017 #49
Interesting. Motive isn't bothering me at all. Corvo Bianco Oct 2017 #52
Yeah, it's not like he could come up with some great reason ProfessorPlum Oct 2017 #54
Same as usual: a disaffected white guy showing us all that he IS TOO powerful. Squinch Oct 2017 #53
A guy with a love of death toys and brainwashed by RW propaganda... Initech Oct 2017 #56
He knew he was going to die Corgigal Oct 2017 #58
30 years ago no one sat around analyzing this that much RhodeIslandOne Oct 2017 #60
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