The Democrats have a working class problem - and it's by no means confined to working class whites.

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119. "Throw up our hands and give up"? Where in the world

are you getting that from.

You are right that the Republicans are in a weak position. But that doesn't negate the fact that a large number (millions) of potentially Democratic voters don't come out to vote or are attracted to a shiny new object in the face of their own personal experiences related to structural economic issues that the Democratic Party has been weak and essentially non-responsive on.

We need to do far more than just what we've done in the past. That's essentially what I get from your posts above: no problem here, steady she goes.

In my experience (yeah, anecdotal but it's real), too many Democrats are complacent on working class/labor economic issues because they are well educated themselves, have good paying jobs providing them and their families personal financial security and either don't see the problem or actually believe some of what the right-wing preaches about individual responsibility. That's what needs to change.