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Hortensis

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23. Sure. But personality is different. It can change also, but only so much.

Wed Oct 18, 2017, 05:48 AM

Oct 2017

In West's case, he's no kid. He's not still "finding" himself.

He has a real brilliance that combined with ambition and desire for acclaim elevated him, but he self destructed as his behaviors became more scrutinized.

Wait and see, Brogrizzly. He went quiet for a while after blowback from 2016. He went to counterprotest in Charlotte, and good for that. Interestingly, though, he claimed his life was seriously endangered. That's certainly possible, but it seems a little strange for such a public figure that it was never corroborated.

Maybe watch and judge for yourself if he's changed?

Addendum: Just watched that Betsuni's video with Maher. Oh, my! Well, watch him coming up to 2018 anyway. First-person observations are always desirable.

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Remember when Cornel West tweeted about "Brother Trump"? I do. Reason enough [View all] pnwmom Oct 2017 OP

You've got to be kidding with this shit melman Oct 2017 #1

I'm hoping to discredit Cornel West forever with any serious progressive, pnwmom Oct 2017 #2

August 2015? Kentonio Oct 2017 #5

Trump had been an anti-Obama birther bigot for years by 2015, pnwmom Oct 2017 #7

I know he's annoyed ME a nummber of times, "Brother" Kentonio. maddiemom Oct 2017 #51

Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #61

You're saying Hillary Clinton "not only voted for the Iraq war but who advocated for it, and who betsuni Oct 2017 #62

and it's also classic whataboutism.. JHan Oct 2017 #68

Thanks. I wasn't sure who he meant. maddiemom Oct 2017 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Oct 2017 #80

Wait, you're calling us so called progressive people, "while mistakes made by others betsuni Oct 2017 #70

No that's not what you're doing melman Oct 2017 #6

I didn't see that tweet by itself. I saw it when she posted it, and reminded me. pnwmom Oct 2017 #8

Nope melman Oct 2017 #9

I'm not buying your posts, either. So we're even. n/t pnwmom Oct 2017 #10

Hateful hashtag? VermontKevin Oct 2017 #33

What? melman Oct 2017 #34

No. VermontKevin Oct 2017 #35

It's right there melman Oct 2017 #37

Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't see a Hateful Hashtag. VermontKevin Oct 2017 #39

What's the point of this game? melman Oct 2017 #40

I truly don't see what you are saying. Could you tell us what it is? VermontKevin Oct 2017 #71

Right melman Oct 2017 #104

As usual, you dance around what you're implying. Why not come out and say what's "hateful".... George II Oct 2017 #75

"Memories" are hateful. betsuni Oct 2017 #79

You know how a hashtag works melman Oct 2017 #101

Actually no. I don't have a twitter account or any account on "social media".... George II Oct 2017 #102

You don't need an account melman Oct 2017 #105

But isn't the point of this discussion is what Cornell West said? George II Oct 2017 #106

No I don't think it really is melman Oct 2017 #107

Then you're reading into the mind of the person who posted the OP. George II Oct 2017 #108

You've got to be kidding with this shit Cary Oct 2017 #48

lol melman Oct 2017 #50

It's a stupid comment. Cary Oct 2017 #64

Did it make sense when you said it? George II Oct 2017 #76

It certainly did melman Oct 2017 #103

... betsuni Oct 2017 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author SharonClark Oct 2017 #82

Cornel West is not a 'friend' to Democrats. He helped 'Borther Trump win...screw him. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #4

Agree. 2018 is coming up fast, and West will be wielding his poison pen. Hortensis Oct 2017 #17

It is going to be an epic battle that we must win. I hope some have seen that electing Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #32

He's a loon. Drahthaardogs Oct 2017 #19

I don't understand that either. He is a disgrace. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #20

He's at Union Theological Seminary now, but I agree --- pnwmom Oct 2017 #25

He went to Princeton and proved capable of good work. My guess is he behaved Hortensis Oct 2017 #27

The vatican accepts adulteresses as ambassadors? mdbl Oct 2017 #28

:) I'm sure they routinely receive adulterers and worse, Hortensis Oct 2017 #29

lol mdbl Oct 2017 #31

Agreed. MariaCSR Oct 2017 #57

Thank you! Paka Oct 2017 #11

& it's from a well known disillusioned73 Oct 2017 #90

Classic example of extremist effect on thinking. And West's usual attention seeking, of course. Hortensis Oct 2017 #3

The trouble is that they can't win. We are supposed to step aside and watch them lose. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #14

Agree completely. But the OTHER trouble is they shouldn't be trusted with power. Hortensis Oct 2017 #18

I agree completely. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #22

+1 betsuni Oct 2017 #16

So no ones opinion on a person can change...ever? Like ever Ever? Brogrizzly Oct 2017 #12

I don't know... betsuni Oct 2017 #15

Wow. Brain damage? He sounds like the loon that Hortensis Oct 2017 #41

It's sad. He'll be okay for awhile and then go full loony. betsuni Oct 2017 #49

Not good. Wonder if that's his talking to adolescents mode, Hortensis Oct 2017 #53

No one who could support an anti-Obama BIRTHER in 2015 is EVER worth listening to, pnwmom Oct 2017 #21

Sure. But personality is different. It can change also, but only so much. Hortensis Oct 2017 #23

This guy has been doing this for years and no he doesn't change... Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #24

Oh, yes, to that last. Personally, I suspect he was jealous of Obama, Hortensis Oct 2017 #26

He is an attention seeker, and I think he hated Pres. Obama. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #30

His tweets certainly don't demonstrate it. Long, very dense text Hortensis Oct 2017 #38

I meant the verbiage that West tosses around...reminds me of the word salad Palin uses... Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #43

Know exactly what you mean and agree. Hortensis Oct 2017 #55

I have read some of his earlier writings...and wish I could have heard that Cornell West...I don't Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #66

High I.Q; Low E.Q.? maddiemom Oct 2017 #86

Sure seems possible. Hortensis Oct 2017 #87

So you think Bernie is like Sarah Palin? unc70 Oct 2017 #89

Oh, there are huge differences once you compare them to Hortensis Oct 2017 #91

I have a strongly different view of Bernie unc70 Oct 2017 #92

Yes. I feel I've gotten to know him sufficiently through his actions for that. Hortensis Oct 2017 #96

Great analysis Hortensis. I agree 100% lunamagica Oct 2017 #97

I suspected that, as well. maddiemom Oct 2017 #52

I think it's even worse than that... JHan Oct 2017 #67

Support you 100% lillypaddle Oct 2017 #13

Funny how people do not want to reminded when they were wrong or fooled. coolsandy Oct 2017 #36

Yes, that statement was wrong. But why continue the decisiveness? Sienna86 Oct 2017 #42

How does it "hurt the party" ? JHan Oct 2017 #45

You should pose that question to Dr. West Orrex Oct 2017 #46

How does decisiveness hurt the party? MrsCoffee Oct 2017 #54

Cornel West is one of the most divisive so called people on the left there is. phleshdef Oct 2017 #60

Because Cornel West isn't going to change, and we need to remember who he is pnwmom Oct 2017 #93

Arsonist, and bulllshitter. JHan Oct 2017 #44

You are correct to point out that West is a nut just like Sarandon Renew Deal Oct 2017 #47

Rec. nt LexVegas Oct 2017 #56

Day after day after day after day democrank Oct 2017 #58

I think thats exactly the point of the OP. Its Cornel West and others who divide the Democrats. yardwork Oct 2017 #63

The point of the OP is that West is an enabler. VermontKevin Oct 2017 #72

Cornel West supported Trump and dissed Obama. He isn't an ally. People need to know that. n/t pnwmom Oct 2017 #94

I've been calling Cornel West out as an ignorant hack for years. phleshdef Oct 2017 #59

He's a self serving POS. Knr joeybee12 Oct 2017 #69

Cornel West is dead to me. Adrahil Oct 2017 #73

But West also hates Hillary and Obama Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #74

I won't listen to anyone who voted for Jill Stein, because that one action spoke volumes of how still_one Oct 2017 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author SharonClark Oct 2017 #81

the worst people in America occupy the White House, cabinet, mountain grammy Oct 2017 #83

Yes, let's vilify West -- because he HELPED Trump get there. n/t pnwmom Oct 2017 #95

I won't forget mcar Oct 2017 #84

Yup ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #85

Narcissists sticking together. West is a greedy, spiteful hypocrite, although I've enjoyed ecstatic Oct 2017 #88

K&R. posts like the OP are necessary so we won't forget. Thanks pnwmom lunamagica Oct 2017 #98

Is there context to the comment? You can find somebody to be vile and still think they are JCanete Oct 2017 #99

West tweeted it out unencumbered by context. pnwmom Oct 2017 #100