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canetoad

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25. Some buried info from 6 days ago
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 09:18 PM
Oct 2017
US Military Reveals Contractors Flew to the Rescue in Niger, but Little Else

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/15121/us-military-reveals-contractors-flew-to-the-rescue-in-niger-but-little-else

Additional details that have emerged regarding an ambush in southwest Niger that left four U.S. Army soldiers dead continue to prompt more questions than they answer about the incident. The top American headquarters for military operations on the continent, U.S. Africa Command, has now confirmed that private contractors helped casualties evacuate the area afterwards, but has again declined to elaborate on the U.S.-Nigerien patrol's overall objectives or who is responsible for the attack.

The facts as they are known at present are that, on Oct. 4, 2017, two U.S. Army Special Forces soldiers and two other members of the service attached to elements of the 3rd Special Forces Group (Airborne) in Niger died after their convoy came under attack from militants near the village of Tongo Tongo, near the border with Mali. A multi-national force of American, Nigerien, and French forces responded to the incident to help drive off the hostile force and rescue the remaining friendly personnel. One of the American soldiers killed in the incident was missing for two days before U.S. forces recovered his body and it remains unclear when and how he died.

According to Berry’s website, however, the company’s fleet only includes a variety of fixed wing aircraft, such as the de Havilland Canada Dash-8 and Twin Otter, both twin engine turbo-prop planes. It is unclear whether the firm also has helicopters or subcontracts to provide that service. Contracting documents for previous iterations of this arrangement do not specify the need for any particular aircraft by name or prohibit the use of third parties to meet its requirements.

That the aircraft were on call and participated in the response efforts is an important detail. The ability of the U.S. military and contractors working on its behalf, or lack thereof, to rush to the rescue during the attack has been a point of significant scrutiny.

On edit: I've just posted this as an OP. Think it deserves exposure.

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This Niger mess [View all] malaise Oct 2017 OP
Hold on underpants Oct 2017 #1
I really don't know anything about it except Trump is an asshole but I don't think Jim Beard Oct 2017 #2
Not his army buddies - never malaise Oct 2017 #3
Which contractors? Baconator Oct 2017 #7
Berry Aviation bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #11
It's funny that Berry Aviation's website is no longer available. bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #12
Oops malaise Oct 2017 #13
The bigger questions for me are bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #17
Yep - the family or the other goons malaise Oct 2017 #21
Interesting Corgigal Oct 2017 #16
They said he wasn't DashOneBravo Oct 2017 #22
Then why did they tell the widow Polly Hennessey Oct 2017 #34
Found this on Wiki bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #14
Some buried info from 6 days ago canetoad Oct 2017 #25
He could have been captured live also (hurts to say this) and riversedge Oct 2017 #4
Well if he was dead and left out in that heat malaise Oct 2017 #15
Bodies in 'Nam liquefied rather quickly when not recovered for days. Kaleva Oct 2017 #30
Goddamn it... Baconator Oct 2017 #5
Why was he left when the other victims were taken. panader0 Oct 2017 #6
Probably because bodies are good to have and are retrieved whenever possible... Baconator Oct 2017 #8
I mean, why did "contractors" retrieve the bodies and not the US army? panader0 Oct 2017 #10
Contract air is most of the intra Niger air... Baconator Oct 2017 #27
My point is: The US army should not have to rely on contractors. n/t panader0 Oct 2017 #29
Why is that? Baconator Oct 2017 #35
Precisely malaise Oct 2017 #9
I just caught newblewtoo Oct 2017 #18
It will come out malaise Oct 2017 #19
We've been there for 4 years. B2G Oct 2017 #20
I want to thank you for newblewtoo Oct 2017 #23
Just because you didn't know... Baconator Oct 2017 #28
They've had Med Evac DashOneBravo Oct 2017 #24
I read an analysis. Blue_true Oct 2017 #26
The casket should be opened for a civilian autopsy. roamer65 Oct 2017 #31
Rachel Maddow peggysue2 Oct 2017 #32
We need to allow family to sue the military Not Ruth Oct 2017 #33
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