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In reply to the discussion: Rachel explains the story behind the soldiers being killed in Niger. [View all]bonemachine
(757 posts)75. Counterpoint:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2017/10/do_not_try_to_turn_niger_into_trump_s_benghazi.html]
Maddows speculation, which mirrors a conspiracy theory pushed by the Palmer Report, a fringe website, might be tempting to believe, but it makes several key errors. First, there is simply no evidence that the withdrawal of Chadian forces from Niger had anything to do with the ambush. Examining the basic geography of the crisis makes this clear. Chads involvement in Niger was limited to the fight against Boko Haram, a Nigeria-based extremist movement that terrorizes civilians in northwest Nigeria, southeast Niger, southern Chad, and northern Cameroon. The Chadians were deployed to the Diffa region, where they fought effectively against Boko Haram and restored a semblance of stability to communities the extremists had terrorized. Their withdrawal has upset communities in the Diffa region, who (rightly) believe that their own governments forces are incapable of protecting them from a renewed Boko Haram threat.
As you can see from this map, Diffa is on the opposite side of Niger from Tongo Tongo, where the ambush occurred. Nigerian forces and their American advisers in this region of Niger were not dealing with Boko Haram but instead were working to protect communities from other extremist groups that are active in the region where Mali, Niger, and Burkina Faso meet. One of these groups, the Islamic State in the Greater Sahara, is suspected of perpetrating the Niger attack.
Chadian forces were not involved in counterterror efforts in this area. There are Chadians involved in the fight against ISGS and other extremist groups across the border in northern Mali, where they continue to serve, but they do not engage in Niger.
In her segment, Maddow incorrectly claimed that Chadian forces were protecting civilians from the ISIS-affiliated ISGS. This simply isnt true; Chadian forces were never fighting ISGS in Niger. They were fighting a completely different enemy in a different part of the country.
As you can see from this map, Diffa is on the opposite side of Niger from Tongo Tongo, where the ambush occurred. Nigerian forces and their American advisers in this region of Niger were not dealing with Boko Haram but instead were working to protect communities from other extremist groups that are active in the region where Mali, Niger, and Burkina Faso meet. One of these groups, the Islamic State in the Greater Sahara, is suspected of perpetrating the Niger attack.
Chadian forces were not involved in counterterror efforts in this area. There are Chadians involved in the fight against ISGS and other extremist groups across the border in northern Mali, where they continue to serve, but they do not engage in Niger.
In her segment, Maddow incorrectly claimed that Chadian forces were protecting civilians from the ISIS-affiliated ISGS. This simply isnt true; Chadian forces were never fighting ISGS in Niger. They were fighting a completely different enemy in a different part of the country.
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Rachel explains the story behind the soldiers being killed in Niger. [View all]
milestogo
Oct 2017
OP
I was amazed that he did not acknowledge the killing of 4 American troops by ISIS the same day
milestogo
Oct 2017
#8
I believe I read that Sgt. Johnson's body was not recovered for several days. listed MIA???
niyad
Oct 2017
#69
NO. The Chad military was a very effective partner to US troops in combating
bullwinkle428
Oct 2017
#6
The American troops were apparently killed by members of ISIS, not Boko Haram -
milestogo
Oct 2017
#14
Thanks. I thought the other poster was suggesting the Americans were killed
bullwinkle428
Oct 2017
#34
Since Bengazi is ultimately on Republicans for cutting funds for security,
Mediumsizedhand
Oct 2017
#11
Wait. Trump effectively gave himself an A for destroying ISIS. This must be fake news. Hahaha.
Freethinker65
Oct 2017
#13
Rachel's news hour helps keep us from **total** despair. She, and her news team, ferret out the
FailureToCommunicate
Oct 2017
#33
i guess that's why you need people with knowledge and experience which they got rid of . they would
JI7
Oct 2017
#55
I read that Chadian troops were in a different part of Niger. Like on the opposite side, so the
SweetieD
Oct 2017
#57
After Chad Enforced Exxon's Delinquent Tax Payments, Chad Was Added To Trump's Travel Ban
dlk
Oct 2017
#62
ExxonMobil doesn't pay taxes it was well aware of and everybody in the Trump adm looks the other way
SleeplessinSoCal
Oct 2017
#71
Jesus, he won't turn in his tax returns, he is a murder X 4, hates black or anyone
onecent
Oct 2017
#73
I watch rachel for entertainment only ..... may want to get you crytical thinking
Kathy M
Oct 2017
#79