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Eliot Rosewater

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4. Isnt that something like "why is it ONLY black lives matter?

Sun Oct 22, 2017, 04:22 PM

Oct 2017

Because blue lives matter too.

But the senseless gunning down of police in the streets for things like jaywalking

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html

is not really happening, or for selling cigarettes

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2014/dec/04/i-cant-breathe-eric-garner-chokehold-death-video

but it does happen to black people and BECAUSE they are black.

So I guess it is kind of similar in that sure men are harassed by women, but the conditions and occurrences are different.

I only thought of this because of my friend who wore a "blue lives matter" wristband to a coffee klatch we guys had one day and all I could do is roll my eyes.

Having said all that, a close friend worked as a "hotshot fire crew-member" for USFS and he had a supervisor, female, who was a narcissist who caused his life to be hell. So it does happen.

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Why is it *ONLY* women? [View all] Archae Oct 2017 OP

It's not "only" women but people of all genders and orientations uppityperson Oct 2017 #1

Agree. Archae Oct 2017 #3

I keep trying to explain to my daughter that sexual harassment TheDebbieDee Oct 2017 #28

Exactly.... Sort of like the ole "white lives matter" retort to "black lives matter" after hlthe2b Oct 2017 #5

Trump was elected, O'Reilly is on his way back, and Weinstein will be back too, promise. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #2

Isnt that something like "why is it ONLY black lives matter? Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #4

Well said.. good answer to this post. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #43

Thank you. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #59

Wow, truth be told? saidsimplesimon Oct 2017 #6

Why is what only women? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #7

Only women harassed get spoken of. Archae Oct 2017 #9

Is this a joke? pnwmom Oct 2017 #8

Which I applaud, Weinstein frinally get his. Archae Oct 2017 #11

Until very recently, NO ONE took men to task (at least in any major numbers) hlthe2b Oct 2017 #13

It doesn't excuse the behavior and yet it is minimized. tymorial Oct 2017 #18

You NEED to read. I stated clearly: " It excuses nothing" hlthe2b Oct 2017 #20

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #29

Any man harassed and taking it forward can thank all the women ahead of him that Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #30

Times change and the amount of tolerance society has for some issues chances...... Jim Beard Oct 2017 #32

Yes. I do not get the point though. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #33

What might seem permissible in the past and been made "Light of" have Jim Beard Oct 2017 #39

It was serious then, just ignored. Through awareness from women and feminists, it is now taken Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #40

Women/girls being abused has always been minimized in the past, today and will be in the future. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #21

I think the number of female harassers taken to task is probably proportionate pnwmom Oct 2017 #22

Did you make a formal complaint? procon Oct 2017 #10

Abuse victims, regardless of gender, stay silent for the same reasons tymorial Oct 2017 #14

Usually, imo, the perceived benefits of speaking out are far outweighed by retaliation. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #19

Decades ago... nolabear Oct 2017 #12

GOOD news for you, Archae. It ISN'T. Hortensis Oct 2017 #15

Women don't always get off scot free TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #16

But they usually don't get much time. LisaL Oct 2017 #24

In the patriarchy, men are assumed to be the chaser and women the chasee Oneironaut Oct 2017 #17

I knew of something similar left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #23

Why are you posting this, Archae? Tobin S. Oct 2017 #25

Exactly. JenniferJuniper Oct 2017 #26

It's a twisted irony. Throck Oct 2017 #27

OK, I have been holding back but now I am saying it....as a Democrat. Jim Beard Oct 2017 #31

Monica was a consenting partner. Do you understand the difference? Squinch Oct 2017 #34

Yes I do know the difference but they were a few others that said it wasn't Jim Beard Oct 2017 #37

No. It wasn't conceptual. It was actual. They had sex. But it WAS consensual. Squinch Oct 2017 #38

*snort! nolabear Oct 2017 #42

Warning to the Boss: Think of Having Sex with Your Employee as the Same as Incest! Jim Beard Oct 2017 #44

You and some random guy think sex between consenting adults is wrong. That doesn't make it so. Squinch Oct 2017 #45

Or if your company feels that way. moriah Oct 2017 #49

Saying it can cause awkwardness and drama when it ends is a far cry from saying Squinch Oct 2017 #53

Isn't it Jimmy Carter who had conceptual sex lapucelle Oct 2017 #52

Sometimes we all have conceptual sex, don't you think? Squinch Oct 2017 #54

And I've heard that some people even have it lapucelle Oct 2017 #55

Sex begins at conception! Orrex Oct 2017 #57

Whoa is right! Squinch Oct 2017 #58

Clinton was investigated and only consensual relationships were proven JI7 Oct 2017 #46

She initiated it by flashing him. So he was not the agressive one ... and in a sense, she had the bettyellen Oct 2017 #48

She was an adult woman making her choice. I think Bill is a piece of shit pertaining to this Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #50

Oh I agree- it's not that she was a real victim. It was her gambit to show him her thong.... bettyellen Oct 2017 #51

What was your boss fired for? kcr Oct 2017 #35

Did you report the harassment? If so what happened? Squinch Oct 2017 #36

(Giggles) You said "Head manager" NightWatcher Oct 2017 #41

I have been harassed by numerous women over my career Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2017 #47

Archae, men also sexually harass and sexually abuse other men. It is NOT only women. nt irisblue Oct 2017 #56

Seems irrational to project your own experience as indicative of the whole. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #60