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smirkymonkey

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29. Thank YOU!

Sun Oct 22, 2017, 06:49 PM

Oct 2017

Another "What about the men?" post to divert the attention from the very pervasive and serious problem of male on female sexual harassment.

I have no doubt that it happens the other way around, and I do feel badly for those people. But the issue is that it is mostly men who are in power and who abuse it by taking sexual advantage of women. This has been going on for centuries. The fact that we are finally bringing it to light is not dismissing the experiences of men who have suffered these indignities as well.

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Why is it *ONLY* women? [View all] Archae Oct 2017 OP

It's not "only" women but people of all genders and orientations uppityperson Oct 2017 #1

Agree. Archae Oct 2017 #3

I keep trying to explain to my daughter that sexual harassment TheDebbieDee Oct 2017 #28

Exactly.... Sort of like the ole "white lives matter" retort to "black lives matter" after hlthe2b Oct 2017 #5

Trump was elected, O'Reilly is on his way back, and Weinstein will be back too, promise. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #2

Isnt that something like "why is it ONLY black lives matter? Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #4

Well said.. good answer to this post. mountain grammy Oct 2017 #43

Thank you. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #59

Wow, truth be told? saidsimplesimon Oct 2017 #6

Why is what only women? WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2017 #7

Only women harassed get spoken of. Archae Oct 2017 #9

Is this a joke? pnwmom Oct 2017 #8

Which I applaud, Weinstein frinally get his. Archae Oct 2017 #11

Until very recently, NO ONE took men to task (at least in any major numbers) hlthe2b Oct 2017 #13

It doesn't excuse the behavior and yet it is minimized. tymorial Oct 2017 #18

You NEED to read. I stated clearly: " It excuses nothing" hlthe2b Oct 2017 #20

Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #29

Any man harassed and taking it forward can thank all the women ahead of him that Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #30

Times change and the amount of tolerance society has for some issues chances...... Jim Beard Oct 2017 #32

Yes. I do not get the point though. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #33

What might seem permissible in the past and been made "Light of" have Jim Beard Oct 2017 #39

It was serious then, just ignored. Through awareness from women and feminists, it is now taken Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #40

Women/girls being abused has always been minimized in the past, today and will be in the future. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #21

I think the number of female harassers taken to task is probably proportionate pnwmom Oct 2017 #22

Did you make a formal complaint? procon Oct 2017 #10

Abuse victims, regardless of gender, stay silent for the same reasons tymorial Oct 2017 #14

Usually, imo, the perceived benefits of speaking out are far outweighed by retaliation. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #19

Decades ago... nolabear Oct 2017 #12

GOOD news for you, Archae. It ISN'T. Hortensis Oct 2017 #15

Women don't always get off scot free TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #16

But they usually don't get much time. LisaL Oct 2017 #24

In the patriarchy, men are assumed to be the chaser and women the chasee Oneironaut Oct 2017 #17

I knew of something similar left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #23

Why are you posting this, Archae? Tobin S. Oct 2017 #25

Exactly. JenniferJuniper Oct 2017 #26

It's a twisted irony. Throck Oct 2017 #27

OK, I have been holding back but now I am saying it....as a Democrat. Jim Beard Oct 2017 #31

Monica was a consenting partner. Do you understand the difference? Squinch Oct 2017 #34

Yes I do know the difference but they were a few others that said it wasn't Jim Beard Oct 2017 #37

No. It wasn't conceptual. It was actual. They had sex. But it WAS consensual. Squinch Oct 2017 #38

*snort! nolabear Oct 2017 #42

Warning to the Boss: Think of Having Sex with Your Employee as the Same as Incest! Jim Beard Oct 2017 #44

You and some random guy think sex between consenting adults is wrong. That doesn't make it so. Squinch Oct 2017 #45

Or if your company feels that way. moriah Oct 2017 #49

Saying it can cause awkwardness and drama when it ends is a far cry from saying Squinch Oct 2017 #53

Isn't it Jimmy Carter who had conceptual sex lapucelle Oct 2017 #52

Sometimes we all have conceptual sex, don't you think? Squinch Oct 2017 #54

And I've heard that some people even have it lapucelle Oct 2017 #55

Sex begins at conception! Orrex Oct 2017 #57

Whoa is right! Squinch Oct 2017 #58

Clinton was investigated and only consensual relationships were proven JI7 Oct 2017 #46

She initiated it by flashing him. So he was not the agressive one ... and in a sense, she had the bettyellen Oct 2017 #48

She was an adult woman making her choice. I think Bill is a piece of shit pertaining to this Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #50

Oh I agree- it's not that she was a real victim. It was her gambit to show him her thong.... bettyellen Oct 2017 #51

What was your boss fired for? kcr Oct 2017 #35

Did you report the harassment? If so what happened? Squinch Oct 2017 #36

(Giggles) You said "Head manager" NightWatcher Oct 2017 #41

I have been harassed by numerous women over my career Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2017 #47

Archae, men also sexually harass and sexually abuse other men. It is NOT only women. nt irisblue Oct 2017 #56

Seems irrational to project your own experience as indicative of the whole. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #60