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Plucketeer

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24. "We are part of the natural world."
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 08:45 PM
Oct 2017

Indeed, we are. And BEING a natural outgrowth of life on this planet, we're no different from other facets of this whirling rock than earthquakes or volcanoes. Sure - we have self-awareness that we think elevates us above everything else. But we're not "apart" from the list of possible catalysts for catastrophe. We're just one more of them. We can't control quakes, nor asteroids, nor greed. All of what we're currently lamenting is just the wholly natural force of change.

I grew up in the countryside - fascinated with the flora and fauna that was all around every time I stepped off the back stoop. I rescued baby birds, caught and marveled at frogs and tortoises, searched for cocoons of moths and butterflies so I could watch them hatch, caught and categorized butterflies in a display, picked wild strawberries and blackberries. It was great growing up there - I wouldn't trade my childhood experiences for anything. Of course, I couldn't re-do them even if I wanted to. That "world" of mine is covered with blacktop and housing developments. I don't know why it had to go like that, but it's still surging with reckless abandon - and there's only the tiniest of voices calling for it to stop - or at least moderate out of respect for the ecosystems we recognize as being essential to our own ultimate fate. We're just a slow-spewing volcano or a slow-smashing asteroid. Obviously, having self-awareness does NOT afford us the chance to avoid an extinction event.

What happened to life after the prior extinctions revised this outpost? It had survivors that picked themselves up, recognized the various niches that mutating forms could adapt to and gave us a nearly complete makeover of "life forms". This scenario has played out like this time and again. So what makes us THINK or gives us the right to think we can hold everything in stasis? My personal hunch (IF we don't strangle ourselves with pollution or fry ourselves with nukes) is that AI will come to the fore and truly bring about world order thru oppression or outright elimination. And who would be to blame for that?

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Scary to even contemplate octoberlib Oct 2017 #1
Spiecies of all kinds of creatures are being wiped out and made extinct democratisphere Oct 2017 #2
Case in point tecelote Oct 2017 #13
I know. The next Armageddon on Earth rests squarely on the shoulders of huMANs. democratisphere Oct 2017 #15
Just wait until the nukes come out. roamer65 Oct 2017 #21
I keep saying within a month. The only reason it hasnt happened is Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #52
Kick for exposure! red dog 1 Oct 2017 #3
Our turn will come. We already see it in increased illness, Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #4
Off to the greatest page for visibility malaise Oct 2017 #5
I was out on the highway in farm country the other day... Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2017 #6
It really is astounding. gvstn Oct 2017 #7
when was the last time ... donotpissoffacow Oct 2017 #8
I live in Lake County about 100 miles north of San Francisco. Mr.Bill Oct 2017 #11
Plenty here in Florida ornotna Oct 2017 #12
I've been able to sit out on my back deck in the evening, in the middle of farm country, sagesnow Oct 2017 #9
Some insects and bugs are growing in numbers due to Climate Change too. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #10
There are simply way too many people in the world Yupster Oct 2017 #14
We need to start providing financial incentives for birth control and abortion. roamer65 Oct 2017 #22
And pile on taxes if they have more than replacement donotpissoffacow Oct 2017 #25
But we're not the problem Yupster Oct 2017 #29
By the raw numbers you are correct. By carbon footprint SaintLouisBlues Oct 2017 #33
Yeah, so what happens when the one billion Yupster Oct 2017 #38
We're fucked either way, but don't pretend the Western lifestyle is not the problem. SaintLouisBlues Oct 2017 #40
It's just arithmetic Yupster Oct 2017 #41
Do you seriously think... donotpissoffacow Oct 2017 #34
Demography is destiny Yupster Oct 2017 #36
Is anyone paying the people of Yupster Oct 2017 #30
It is not about the shear numbers, it is about resource usage per capita. SaintLouisBlues Oct 2017 #39
It's multiplication Yupster Oct 2017 #42
I did not propose a solution. I don't think there are any realistic ones. SaintLouisBlues Oct 2017 #43
There is only one solution Yupster Oct 2017 #44
Don't worry, that is going to happen. donotpissoffacow Oct 2017 #53
The sixth great mass extinction... Locut0s Oct 2017 #16
Noticed this earlier this summer cilla4progress Oct 2017 #17
Here's something you can do NJCher Oct 2017 #18
We have had the pleasure of doing this missingthebigdog Oct 2017 #20
that makes me so happy to hear NJCher Oct 2017 #55
There's good reason to be suspicious of insecticides. hunter Oct 2017 #19
The excessive use of Roundup on our food crops is obscene - messing with our bodies & the bees too! womanofthehills Oct 2017 #37
Parts Per Billion Major Nikon Oct 2017 #45
It must be cow farts. roamer65 Oct 2017 #23
"We are part of the natural world." Plucketeer Oct 2017 #24
Yourself. donotpissoffacow Oct 2017 #31
We're an anomaly, a genetic burp in the natural world. defacto7 Oct 2017 #26
Every life form is an anomaly. Plucketeer Oct 2017 #27
Roaches, ants, jellyfish, dinosaurs, sharks, flies, bees defacto7 Oct 2017 #35
So sharks Plucketeer Oct 2017 #46
Well, you sure missed the point of that one. defacto7 Oct 2017 #48
OK then Plucketeer Oct 2017 #49
As part of the natural world quaker bill Oct 2017 #28
Tools have gotten us ways donotpissoffacow Oct 2017 #32
Sadly Plucketeer Oct 2017 #50
Each and every one of us believes... donotpissoffacow Oct 2017 #54
K&R. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2017 #47
mother nature usuallu has a way to correct a problem, perhaps in 100yrs humans won't be causing one beachbum bob Oct 2017 #51
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