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46. It's time to stop blaming people for being stupid when polls are being rigged

Reply to Liberal_Stalwart71 (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:25 AM

Jul 2012

We all need to take the blinders off. Polls have been rigged since at least the 2000 elections. So have votes, especially in certain States. And so is the MSM.

Once you see it for what it is then it's not hard to understand.

If you were to take a poll and you wanted it to reflect what you choose then you just lie and tell everyone that the polls reflect what you want them to. And if you're good at it you'll ask questions in such a way that the answers will reflect what you want the poll to reflect.

If you ask, "Do you agree that raising your taxes is fair?" and you answer, "No" then the pollsters can translate that into saying you don't want to raise taxes for the 1%.

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As Rachel would say, someone please talk me down! Bain attacks backfiring? [View all] Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 OP

please link to where you are seeing this Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #1

They forgot! Yes... already! immoderate Jul 2012 #2

Not a single poll released to date was taken AFTER the Bain/tax return attacks went into full push. GarroHorus Jul 2012 #3

See post #5. I hope you're right. :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #7

Not only that. ProSense Jul 2012 #16

Plus, only 942 out of 1089 people polled are even REGISTERED TO VOTE! GarroHorus Jul 2012 #19

Not true. Most polls released yesterday were completed on the 16th or 17th WI_DEM Jul 2012 #41

And all of them were started before the current kerfluffle n/t GarroHorus Jul 2012 #48

Again, I hope you're right, but just today... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #55

Are you kidding? Romney will die the death of a thousand cuts. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2012 #4

Praying this continues... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #13

For instance... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #5

The poll cited in both instances was take July 11-16 GarroHorus Jul 2012 #15

the job market is weak so Obama's approval on economy is not going to improve WI_DEM Jul 2012 #42

I agree with this; therefore I wonder if the Obama campaign is using resources wisely. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #56

what polls? spanone Jul 2012 #6

Post #5. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #9

That's ONE poll demwing Jul 2012 #27

Here's another just out today, which hits me hard because we've been working our asses Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #57

the issue is not a silver bullet Enrique Jul 2012 #8

I didn't say immediate. It has now been a few weeks. We know that the ads did have an initial impact Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #11

has it really been a few weeks? Enrique Jul 2012 #51

I sure haven't seen it. It's not novel after a few days but I think it's having an effect. nolabear Jul 2012 #10

Before the Bain info came out, the media was about to focus on unemployment. pnwmom Jul 2012 #12

This is only the beginning. Lint Head Jul 2012 #14

RCP Average of polls RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #17

I typically don't care about national polls as much as I care about the state polls, but I was taken Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #21

YW + This might make you feel better. RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #25

I really agree with this. I'm still hearing too many Democrats being complacent and not working. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #30

Thank you for doing the ground work! RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #37

This, 1000%. Zalatix Jul 2012 #38

That's not good. Bummer. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #18

Gee OverseaVisitor Jul 2012 #20

Sure, but you just said it: Polls shape perception. That perception often becomes reality. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #22

The reality is the vote OverseaVisitor Jul 2012 #52

Pay NO attention to what you read SoCalDem Jul 2012 #23

New Poll from Fox News: Romney vs. Obama --- Obama 45, Romney 41 (Obama +4) Tx4obama Jul 2012 #24

this is good, but... WI_DEM Jul 2012 #45

Oh fer Gawd's sake alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #26

Thanks, anyway. :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #33

oh dear. get the smelling salts. dionysus Jul 2012 #28

Come on, D. We typically get along. Cut me a break on this one. :) Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #31

i'll pretend i never saw it dionysus Jul 2012 #40

Really? "I'm seeing reports . . . " REALLY? Lex Jul 2012 #29

Yeah, because I watch Faux News. Really? That was unnecessary, my friend. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #32

I'm with you. FLyellowdog Jul 2012 #35

Link up your "I'm seeing reports that" in the OP. Lex Jul 2012 #39

Here's a poll to consider demwing Jul 2012 #34

Thanks. I can always depend on DU to make me feel better. :) FLyellowdog Jul 2012 #36

I can't talk you down. I don't think we should back down on the Bain attacks either WI_DEM Jul 2012 #43

it's the polls that are disingenuous lame54 Jul 2012 #44

It's time to stop blaming people for being stupid when polls are being rigged lunatica Jul 2012 #46

Whenever you see rethugs knee-jerk blurting out racist code talk BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #47

Excellent point! randome Jul 2012 #49

I know that's right!! +1!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #58

Someone is feeding you bullshit, that is what is going on here. nt bemildred Jul 2012 #50

Some of the "Pollsters" are hard core reich wing flunkies. Hubert Flottz Jul 2012 #53

Their response to the Bain issue says its Working fredamae Jul 2012 #54