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TeeYiYi

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26. I woke up this morning...
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 03:44 PM
Oct 2017

...still pondering "funeralize" and feeling less confident about its legitimacy. (Damn you, CTyankee.)

The struggle came down to the fact that no matter what definition of "funeral" I used to try to justify it, I couldn't get away from the fact that a funeral is still a ceremony; a ritual.

In an attempt to create a rule for it, I started again with "funeral" synonyms: burial, entombment, interment - the ritual placing of a corpse in a grave. Here's how it went:

If a funeral can be defined as, or pertaining to the ritual placing of a corpse in the ground, then you could say that there is a need to funeralize a corpse; cause a burial to happen. Since a corpse is a person, albeit a dead person, then you could say, once buried, that a person has been funeralized.

If a person can be crystallized, i.e, Lot's wife, then, a dead person should be able to be funeralized.

I'm still not there; not quite comfortable yet... (All this stretching is wearing me out.) I'll give it one more shot:

I keep coming back to a funeral being a ritual. I'm not sure a person can be ritualized. If a person can be said to have completed a particular rite of passage, can it be said that the person has been ritualized?

According to the definition of "ritualize," the answer is yes. (See below: 3. impose ritualism upon)

ritualize
[rich-oo-uh-lahyz]

verb (used without object), ritualized, ritualizing.
1.
to practice ritualism.
verb (used with object), ritualized, ritualizing.
2.
to make into a ritual :
to ritualize the serving of tea.
3.
to convert (someone) to ritualism; impose ritualism upon.

So, there it is. If a person, who has had a ritual imposed upon them, can be said to have been ritualized, then a person who has had a funeral imposed upon them can be said to have been funeralized.

The etymology of "funeralize" makes more sense if you allow for early European translations, both singular and plural, of the Latin root word, "funus." The word, "funeralize," could have origins in multiple countries across Europe, e.g., England, France, Spain, Portugal; brought to America and passed down through the generations.

Thanks again, CTyankee. This time, I really am done; even if I'm wrong. FIN

TYY




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"funeralize"? [View all] CTyankee Oct 2017 OP
I don't think a dead person can be funeralized malaise Oct 2017 #1
I see your point but in a way it could mean "to have a funeral conducted over." CTyankee Oct 2017 #3
I guess it could malaise Oct 2017 #6
As in, "He medaled in the Olympics?" I agree with you. Never a verb! Glorfindel Oct 2017 #8
Yep malaise Oct 2017 #9
There's a certain logic that I see in "medaled." But come to think of it, it's pretty CTyankee Oct 2017 #10
The logic is what I call malaise Oct 2017 #20
Years ago, the late great Edwin Newman, in one... 3catwoman3 Oct 2017 #12
I woke up this morning... TeeYiYi Oct 2017 #26
I really don't like the word. But I suppose it's no worse than "eulogize" or "memorialize" Glorfindel Oct 2017 #2
I think "eulogize" and "memorialize" are very well accepted and are in my CTyankee Oct 2017 #4
Getting ready for you now.... Turbineguy Oct 2017 #5
The people using it today were good liberals. They were saying it respectfully. CTyankee Oct 2017 #7
Two of the most segregated places oswaldactedalone Oct 2017 #11
Yes, IIRC the other person who used the the term was an African-American... CTyankee Oct 2017 #13
Yes. If you find the word in Merriam Webster, janx Oct 2017 #15
It's not revived. Igel Oct 2017 #14
I wouldn't call it a neologism since neo means new and if anything this is an old CTyankee Oct 2017 #16
Yeah, but it's a transitive verb. janx Oct 2017 #17
You nailed it malaise Oct 2017 #21
I don't know... TeeYiYi Oct 2017 #27
I understand that language changes. janx Oct 2017 #29
Sounds like another made-up word from the Internets Thirties Child Oct 2017 #18
"organizationalize" is horrible. Limitate doesn't make any sense. Limit works CTyankee Oct 2017 #19
Someone really needs to start a band and call it "funeralized". Initech Oct 2017 #22
I want to vomitize this euphemism Orrex Oct 2017 #23
you confiscatized my answer. grantcart Oct 2017 #25
That leaves me comfortized. janx Oct 2017 #30
"funeralize"... TeeYiYi Oct 2017 #24
I first encountered it in the 70's, used by the black community where I worked. It's odd, but ancianita Oct 2017 #28
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