Add Stephanie Ruhle to the MSNBC women who do not understand a professional attire

[moriah]

151. So you are honestly afraid of collarbones?

Jeezus H Christ on a pogo stick.

Now, riddle me this: was she dressed more or less professionally than the female guest at the end of the video, who had all her shoulders covered and wasn't showing cleavage, but had a form-fitting blouse with a deep v-neck?

How many female business suits with underblouses shown on the news direct the eyes to the area above the bosom like a black dress with a white collar that's still above the boobs vs the V of the suit front drawing the eye down?

Which non-FCC banned female flesh is unprofessional to show?

Look, I am happy for men if they want to have a revolution in what they consider appropriate business attire and get rid of the 17th century fad that must feel like tying a noose around their necks every morning. I will support them all the way. If they want to wear the monkey suit, I'll support it too.

But female reporters just had to fight for the right to bare arms in the Capitol. WTF is so sexual and inappropriate and distracting about collarbones, and why are we to blame for the fact you might be imagining strapless bras don't exist?

Your main gripes with Ruhle all have the same rings we women hear all the time. We talk too much about things we supposedly don't know as much as the men about. We are "high pitched" and "interrupt". We're to blame for our own oppression, especially successful women also blessed/cursed with traditionally defined beauty, even if it's the people in power putting pressure on those women to show a certain amount of skin if they want to advance their careers. And because we hear them, many women internalize them too.

Perhaps you should follow the advice of your username and question your own assumptions. Try watching the segment with a notepad, and count interruptions. See how many times both hosts interrupted guests and count who did more interrupting in general, and of which genders. And question whether you are perceiving things that aren't there.

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Edit to add: I made the bra comment because it's the only thing I can possibly think of as what could be perceived as sexual about off the shoulder clothing. And because I had a male colleague ask me "why I wasn't wearing a bra" when I was, it was fall and they didn't make "tshirt bras" in my size then. Even though I was wearing something completely within dress code and showing far less flesh, apparently men wonder about women's underwear a lot I guess.