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110. You calling her a liar? nt

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Tue Oct 24, 2017, 07:48 AM

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Folks, there are very good reasons why a body isn't shown to loved ones. [View all] Ilsa Oct 2017 OP

I agree. JanetLovesObama Oct 2017 #1

Once the bacteria from Ilsa Oct 2017 #2

Perhaps when he was found, but certainly not put in the casket that way. panader0 Oct 2017 #19

A naive question PJMcK Oct 2017 #40

They have everybodys DNA on file. James48 Oct 2017 #50

Yes. Good info. Hortensis Oct 2017 #60

Thanks PJMcK Oct 2017 #61

No- not exactly. James48 Oct 2017 #71

They also have all Reservists' DNA on file as well. TheDebbieDee Oct 2017 #93

My brother has his on file xmas74 Oct 2017 #99

Emmett Till....Even my own cousin... HipChick Oct 2017 #3

" the govt. is covering up something..." Maybe, maybe not. Orrex Oct 2017 #6

Sorry, but this is getting to conspiracy theory territory GulfCoast66 Oct 2017 #78

I'm not into conspiracy theories - Ms. Toad Oct 2017 #95

Not to mention flies. cwydro Oct 2017 #106

WTF is this misguided "compassion" bullshit? We don't get to prohibit a wife or mother or father anneboleyn Oct 2017 #145

A head wound is reason enough to not view a body. stopbush Oct 2017 #4

Then tell her that Corgigal Oct 2017 #5

I'm wondering if they have Ilsa Oct 2017 #11

Don't know Corgigal Oct 2017 #17

Stop with the patronizing posts about this widow. She is a strong woman. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #22

I have no doubt she is a strong woman. Ilsa Oct 2017 #25

No one is saying it's not traumatizing. But not knowing is even worse. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #26

And maybe they can convince her with other Ilsa Oct 2017 #27

Please stop insulting this widow. She is not in "denial." SunSeeker Oct 2017 #29

She absolutely has the right to see it. Ilsa Oct 2017 #41

Link to the Pentagon telling her she could see it? That's news to me. nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #48

She has every right to get as much information Corgigal Oct 2017 #42

oh man heaven05 Oct 2017 #120

Do you get a thrill from describing the ugly details of torture, gore, and decomposition? Do you WinkyDink Oct 2017 #43

I've smelled dead bodies and it's horrid but two things: elehhhhna Oct 2017 #66

The things you learn. How about breathing through used coffee grounds? Hortensis Oct 2017 #133

Never tried it but it might work I don't even think they need to be used elehhhhna Oct 2017 #134

Read it somewhere, but I'll be happy to always be able Hortensis Oct 2017 #138

OFGS---STOP WITH THE DISGUSTING "HELPFUL INFO." And while you're at it, stop fantasizing. Oh, wait. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #87

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2017 #38

I've seen combat deaths sarisataka Oct 2017 #7

I agree with you Maeve Oct 2017 #8

Very true. GoCubsGo Oct 2017 #9

If the widow wanted to see his body no matter what, who are we to say she shouldn't? coolsandy Oct 2017 #10

We aren't. But professional grief counselors usually have Ilsa Oct 2017 #12

Yes you are. You are implying there is a legitimate "reason" she was denied her right. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #18

You may be right. She could have been dangerously traumatized. sarge43 Oct 2017 #47

You make the wrong assumption. James48 Oct 2017 #52

I'm well aware what high explosives can do. sarge43 Oct 2017 #65

Didn't he put his own locator on? Wasn't he alive?? I think he was captured, possibly tortured adigal Oct 2017 #68

That word is used for bodies. cwydro Oct 2017 #107

OK, but what about her other question? Fritz Walter Oct 2017 #13

It's a separate question that needs to be answered. Ilsa Oct 2017 #15

Because you don't declare someone dead... Baconator Oct 2017 #112

I suspect that the people who Turbineguy Oct 2017 #14

That is horribly patronizing to the widow. And no justification for denying her viewing. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #16

I agree with you. yallerdawg Oct 2017 #21

They probably can't deny an autopsy, which likely would be easier on Ilsa Oct 2017 #23

Why do you give the Pentagon the benefit of the doubt but not her? SunSeeker Oct 2017 #24

The counselors with her probably see this a lot. Ilsa Oct 2017 #31

ENOUGH! Let her see the body already. You are not doing her any favors. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #49

I don't have power over the body, and I'm not keeping her from seeing Ilsa Oct 2017 #57

Your OP suggests the military is right in keeping her from the body. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #63

No, you are reading that into it. Ilsa Oct 2017 #74

They're not "recommending" she not view the body. They're DENYING her viewing. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #79

Where does it say that in black and white? Baconator Oct 2017 #104

MYESHIA JOHNSON SAID, "THEY WOULDN'T LET ME" : SunSeeker Oct 2017 #108

I'm asking who stopped her? Baconator Oct 2017 #109

You calling her a liar? nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #110

I'm saying it's logically impossible... Baconator Oct 2017 #111

So you give the military the benefit of the doubt but not Myeshia? SunSeeker Oct 2017 #113

You seem desperate to make the facts fit your agenda... Baconator Oct 2017 #114

You seem desperate to not believe Myeshia. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #115

She is still the 'owner' of the remains... Baconator Oct 2017 #116

Yes, she is the legal owner of his remains, but the military told her she couldn't see him. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #118

You can cut all the 'don't be disrespecting our brave troops wishes' on me Missy... Baconator Oct 2017 #121

What's with your condescending, sexist "Missy" reference? You don't even know what my gender is. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #123

Wow, I read that response to you. cwydro Oct 2017 #124

Yup. nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #125

That shit will take decades more to die out and with trump, centuries. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #129

We're saying the same thing... Baconator Oct 2017 #131

No we weren't, I was not spewing sexism. You were. And no, she was DENIED viewing. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author Baconator Oct 2017 #135

No, she couldn't. I don't agree with your point, nor the sexist way you made it. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #139

Nothing's been "exposed"... Baconator Oct 2017 #140

Yes it was exposed, by Myeshia, who exposed being told she couldn't see her husband's remains. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #141

Make sure you don't get any of that straw stuck in your hair... Baconator Oct 2017 #142

Don't worry about my hair. You're the one arguing with a straw man. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #143

Exactly. Amimnoch Oct 2017 #46

There is a saying, once you see or know something, you can never un-see it or un-know it Hestia Oct 2017 #62

To confirm that it is La David. nt SunSeeker Oct 2017 #64

Amen JustAnotherGen Oct 2017 #144

They could have rainin Oct 2017 #20

Yes mainstreetonce Oct 2017 #28

That's it. defacto7 Oct 2017 #35

His wife and his parents hould have been allowed to see his body, regardless of the condition... iluvtennis Oct 2017 #30

If the widow and family had been shown some respect, sensitivity, and honesty... Hekate Oct 2017 #32

ITA. nt Ilsa Oct 2017 #55

There are things you can't un-see easttexaslefty Oct 2017 #33

Just adding this theory: it was said the body did not go through Ramstein Base Wwcd Oct 2017 #34

According to? Baconator Oct 2017 #105

Her choice MaryMagdaline Oct 2017 #36

No matter how we asses someone elses grief... defacto7 Oct 2017 #37

This isn't about the gruesomeness we can ALL imagine. It's about a widow's RIGHT. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #39

Someone is dropping the ball. madaboutharry Oct 2017 #44

Thank you. I suspect the same. nt Ilsa Oct 2017 #45

This woman deserves the facts at least. HopeAgain Oct 2017 #51

She is being lied to ...something is amiss HipChick Oct 2017 #53

Why do we think they won't tell her? He was left alone, alive, yes? His locator went off adigal Oct 2017 #69

I would want verification MFM008 Oct 2017 #54

The bottom line? SCVDem Oct 2017 #56

She doesn't have to view it herself. But get some medical examiner or someone like that to do it JI7 Oct 2017 #58

I do not agree MyNameGoesHere Oct 2017 #59

Thank you . . . here's more Sam McGee Oct 2017 #67

I'm so sorry you had to endure that. Ilsa Oct 2017 #76

PTSD nvme Oct 2017 #70

I don't disagree. Ilsa Oct 2017 #75

Yes, exactly... nt Raine Oct 2017 #72

how divided are we?? For Christ sake it's her choice and bluestarone Oct 2017 #73

If they would let the public see the body, it would certainly dispel the romanticism of war Not Ruth Oct 2017 #77

My heart goes to the widow and family, viewing the body after the possibility of 48 hours after Thinkingabout Oct 2017 #80

MISSING THE POINT. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #85

My neighbor died on a Tuesday morning. She had a massive heart attack kimbutgar Oct 2017 #81

Sorry you had to go throught that... HipChick Oct 2017 #82

BUT !!!!!! flying-skeleton Oct 2017 #83

I hate the word "folks." WinkyDink Oct 2017 #84

Then I'm not the only one. kcr Oct 2017 #98

folks isn't that bad. Lots of folks use it. Now, the word twine is really annoying snooper2 Oct 2017 #122

If he was left behind and murdered ...we need to know... I would demand to see the body period. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #86

I've concluded that the thread is simply to describe revolting details about bodily injuries and de- WinkyDink Oct 2017 #88

Not your call to make, or the government, not in a million years Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #89

This. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #91

this bluestarone Oct 2017 #96

Exactly. This "oh the poor weak woman needs to be protected" makes me sick. HER RIGHT. HER SPOUSE. anneboleyn Oct 2017 #146

I have people in my life that could give a look see and get back to me. I would not have to Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #90

Are you a mortician? greatauntoftriplets Oct 2017 #92

It should be up to the family, and no that would not be a still_one Oct 2017 #94

I am sure That the Master Sgt. that accompanied Sgt. Johnson home... Historic NY Oct 2017 #97

It is her right as a surviving spouse to see his body. Tatiana Oct 2017 #100

I think its wrong to deny her the right to see her husband's body. tulipsandroses Oct 2017 #101

True... Snackshack Oct 2017 #102

This post is patronizing. She is an adult; she is not a child. You are projecting your ideas and anneboleyn Oct 2017 #103

Has anyone mercuryblues Oct 2017 #117

really???? heaven05 Oct 2017 #119

Just to be clear, the widow does not believe that her husbands remains were what she buried? Not Ruth Oct 2017 #126

Myeshia said she does not know if there is anything in that box, because they wouldn't let her see. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #128

if she wants to see him... she is an adult and it's her husband lapfog_1 Oct 2017 #127

Rude Tree-Hugger Oct 2017 #130

It's not a conspiracy theory lillypaddle Oct 2017 #136

Irrelevant to a next-of-kin who wants to see the body anyway. Orsino Oct 2017 #137