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emulatorloo

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87. the caption says "SANDERS Health Plan Will "Never Ever Come To Pass"

Tue Oct 24, 2017, 10:41 PM

Oct 2017

Let's not make the mistake of ass-uming people are not progressive or for universal healthcare because they have misgivings about Sanders particular plan, which had/has no concrete information about how it will be implemented.

There were very few Policy differences between HRC and Bernie. In my caucus state some voters liked Bernie but liked Hillary second best. And some liked Hillary but liked Bernie second best. In other words they would have been happy w either in the general election.

How are you using the acronym DNC? Voters aren't the DNC. Democrats aren't the DNC. The Democratic Party is not the DNC. The DNC is the Democratic National Comittee which does not set policy, does not control primaries (State Democratic Parties do). Just trying to clarify.

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Bernie Sanders to speak at U of T [View all] George II Oct 2017 OP

TORONTO? Me. Oct 2017 #1

When I saw the headline I though U of Texas. Blue_true Oct 2017 #116

Wait...I thought Vermont was IN Canada... MineralMan Oct 2017 #2

Well, if you live in Burlington, on a clear day you can see Canada from your house. George II Oct 2017 #10

I see what you did there! NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #120

If BS is going to Puerto Rico on Friday, Oct. 27, lapucelle Oct 2017 #32

No. He has to pack. MineralMan Oct 2017 #39

,,,, lapucelle Oct 2017 #43

Detroit is only a four hour drive from Toronto. I've done it many times. George II Oct 2017 #118

Me also Gothmog Oct 2017 #93

I might have this wrong. He was headliner at woman convention, backed out when placed as panelist Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #3

Well He Was Featured At Somerville...... Me. Oct 2017 #17

I read this. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #18

Research or thinking. He should have realized both that it Hortensis Oct 2017 #46

Yup. That says a whole lot right there. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #49

Still Dissapointed In Jimmy Too Me. Oct 2017 #78

Me too. Carter lost me for good when he badmouthed Hortensis Oct 2017 #95

Didn't he vite NO on the bail out of PR? nt Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #104

I remember Sanders promised to vote against both the Hortensis Oct 2017 #121

Willing to compromise on some (abortion, Amber Alert), not others. Hm. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #122

His overall record is something like voting 95+% with the Hortensis Oct 2017 #123

Yes. And this has been the argument all along. He is not so special, Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #124

Do not mess with Somerville. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #64

I would strongly suggest the Senator from Vermont not visit any university in Toronto Sen. Walter Sobchak Oct 2017 #4

That's so very, um... well... I mean, it's... well, uh... NurseJackie Oct 2017 #5

Um, ya. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #14

Yeppers NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #119

I wonder if someone will ask him to explain why Vermont doesn't have single payer. nt R B Garr Oct 2017 #6

It's been asked of him a number of times, he demurs. George II Oct 2017 #20

Has he rescheduled his trip to Puerto Rico? nt sheshe2 Oct 2017 #7

Let's kill him with fire. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #8

No one wants to be rid of a progresive Senator that helps the cause of Democrats greatly. George II Oct 2017 #11

Correct. NurseJackie Oct 2017 #19

+1 Jamaal510 Oct 2017 #25

yep +++ JHan Oct 2017 #26

+1 betsuni Oct 2017 #34

,,, lapucelle Oct 2017 #44

+1 liquid diamond Oct 2017 #54

Boom! sheshe2 Oct 2017 #59

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Oct 2017 #114

I strongly support all progressive senators who help the cause of Democrats. yardwork Oct 2017 #126

Eh, just the daily Two Minutes Hate directed towards Bernie. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #13

Doesn't Sanders have to hold some responsibility in his choices he makes? Or just on the people Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #16

Are you REALLY calling the OP (i.e., me) a right winger? REALLY???? George II Oct 2017 #21

Read my post back to me and specifically state where I called you, George II, a right winger. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #22

Well, HughBeaumont, you referring to "1 or 2 threads": George II Oct 2017 #23

I was in our backyard a few minutes ago. Still a few nights before our first frost here, so... George II Oct 2017 #45

THE "YOU" I'M REFERRING TO IS "AMERICA", NOT YOU. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #48

If I were referring to "America", I would say "we" lapucelle Oct 2017 #57

"There's no LIMIT to the extreme of right wing AMERICA can be." emulatorloo Oct 2017 #84

The reality that Dems as a minority party can't get enough votes to pass progessive legislation betsuni Oct 2017 #92

The PPACA was enacted during the 111th Congress in 2010 . . . Democratic Controlled. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #106

With a huge majority it wouldn't be so hard to get 60 votes. There wasn't a large majority. betsuni Oct 2017 #107

As the article pointed out, it wasn't just Lieberman. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #113

You wrote Dogpile til your body parts wither off. Ive never heard that before. yardwork Oct 2017 #127

Wow. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #128

Those were your words. yardwork Oct 2017 #129

I made a FACTUAL statement. Two, actually. HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #130

Here's where something in the argument goes awry. lapucelle Oct 2017 #40

If these people are so progressive, why was Bernie rejected by the DNC? HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #47

He was welcome. Wow, 180 whip lash. Ya, I imagine Clinton had the solid support from Democrats, Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #51

He was welcome. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #61

Who were the millions who rejected him? JHan Oct 2017 #77

We clearly see, it is not about the facts, attacking Dems. Very good point. Thanks. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #81

Imagine playing the "who is the real progressive" game before midterms. JHan Oct 2017 #88

But, here is the thing JHan, and what bothered me so. It is implied and even stated that no, Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #89

it's what one person says it is. JHan Oct 2017 #91

How Was He Rejected By Anyone Other than Voters Me. Oct 2017 #79

the caption says "SANDERS Health Plan Will "Never Ever Come To Pass" emulatorloo Oct 2017 #87

It sure seems that way... NurseJackie Oct 2017 #27

Who's "they"? lapucelle Oct 2017 #38

Ah yes, the same site that ranks Joe Lieberturd a "Moderate Liberal Populist". HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #42

The data on which the "true commentary" is based lapucelle Oct 2017 #52

Yes, and your oh-so-serious data calls Joe Lieberman a "Moderate Liberal Populist". HughBeaumont Oct 2017 #58

The headline is wrong. lapucelle Oct 2017 #62

Used to it. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #65

It does not hurt to have a clear picture of a man positioning himself for a 2020 run as Pres. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #15

I hope he reconsiders. He won't win and could divide the electorate. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #111

Will never understand this or the total disrespect some here show the most popular politician today. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #53

Popular of a couple Democrats and more Republicans, lmFao. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #63

Riiiight. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #66

No, really. Funny. And I see it over and over and over. Lol. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #67

I know, and it bothers me the disrespect that Obama was shown. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #69

That, is the reality. Mediumsizedhand Oct 2017 #70

Yes it is! sheshe2 Oct 2017 #72

Obama deserves our utmost respect, no doubt... can't disagree with you there. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #73

Thank you! Thank you!!!! sheshe2 Oct 2017 #74

Where have you seen it said that Bernie is more loved than Obama and has achieved more than him? InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #80

Nowhere melman Oct 2017 #90

I've never seen it,but if true, I'd be right there alongside sheshe condemning such false statements InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #108

Odd how Obama is never included lapucelle Oct 2017 #103

I love Danielle Martin! She's so articulate and isn't afraid to punch back. PatsFan87 Oct 2017 #9

I was hoping the is wasn't at the fake one? imanamerican63 Oct 2017 #12

As a Toronto resident ... NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #24

You and I think alike. NurseJackie Oct 2017 #28

Canada could teach him about healthcare as they have a good system from all accounts. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #29

We have a GREAT healthcare system here ... NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #30

That's the big point. My family up there have no qualms about the system, and.... George II Oct 2017 #33

I've been here for 42 years. NanceGreggs Oct 2017 #50

Lucky you. My oldest wants to move to Canada when her boyfriend gets out of college. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #109

Hey George, don't you love how they choose to shoot the messenger while completely lunamagica Oct 2017 #31

Precisely, thanks. I guess we'll never know the reasoning behind the changes in plans.... George II Oct 2017 #35

It could have been a great convention mcar Oct 2017 #55

It will still be a great convention...very excited to go. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #110

It's certainly curious. NurseJackie Oct 2017 #37

in the absence of any information whatsoever on the reasons, why would it raise this question? JCanete Oct 2017 #75

Why is there and absence of information on the reasons? That is the question lunamagica Oct 2017 #96

asking why is hardly the same thing as insinuating that the statement that he would be going to JCanete Oct 2017 #97

Where was the insinuation? He posted two articles, and his only comment was that first Sanders said lunamagica Oct 2017 #98

Right melman Oct 2017 #99

I guess it's easier to attack the OP, than to explain what Sanders is doing here lunamagica Oct 2017 #100

um...your direct insinuation. YOURS. wow. JCanete Oct 2017 #101

Oh, OK, I misread. Sorry about that. Well, my insinuation comes from Sanders being scheduled for lunamagica Oct 2017 #102

sorry, was really abrasive in my last post for no good reason. I understand the turn of events that JCanete Oct 2017 #105

No problem. lunamagica Oct 2017 #125

Why is Sanders giving a speech to Canadians on why their healthcare is better? DesertRat Oct 2017 #36

Flying north, not south? betsuni Oct 2017 #41

Your obsession with Bernies weekend plans are duly noted. aidbo Oct 2017 #56

WTF are you talking about? For a Senator who has been declared a decisive leader.... George II Oct 2017 #60

Is that the thing that we sit around saying about Sanders? That he is super decisive? Genuine JCanete Oct 2017 #76

Lol. Bingo. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #68

LOL jalan48 Oct 2017 #71

Seriously melman Oct 2017 #86

What happened to the emergency trip to Puerto Rico?!! Wwcd Oct 2017 #82

I can't wait until us Real Democrats destroy that awful Bernie Sanders democrank Oct 2017 #83

I see what you did there hueymahl Oct 2017 #85

I am really glad Bernie took the time to invent single payer as well as campaign finance reform emulatorloo Oct 2017 #94

No one is destroying Sen. Sanders...I have no doubt he is popular Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #112

+1000 (nt) ehrnst Oct 2017 #115

Thanks. Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #117