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Bertha Venation

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62. I admit I cherry-picked this, standingtall:

Thu Jul 19, 2012, 11:48 AM

Jul 2012

"he is also a just and righteous god"

I was born again when I was six, baptized at age nine, and attended Los Angeles Baptist College (now The Master's College). I was a fundamentalist Christian until about the age of 23, when my world fell apart. It wasn't until then -- I was a late bloomer -- that I began to question my beliefs.

I'm now 49, and I waver between agnosticism and atheism.

My first instinct upon reading this comment of yours was to say BULLSHIT. But it's only bullshit if there is a god. If the god of the bible exists, then I say to you, this is bullshit. If the bible is truly the inspired word of your god, your god is fucked up. To have a group of boys torn apart by wild animals for taunting a bald man? That's just? That's righteous? BULLSHIT! And that's just one of myriad examples of why your god, if he exists, is fucked up.

But for my second reaction, the atheism kicked in. Why should I care?

Believe what you want. But take caution when trying to recruit people. You might be -- just as justly and righteously as the boys being mauled -- kicked in the teeth.

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Scott Walker tweet: If Noah had help from gov't, ark might never have been built [View all] Bolo Boffin Jul 2012 OP

If Walker had been in charge of building it, proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #1

If Scott was a Democrat, the lead on Fox and Friends tomorrow would be... cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #2

Exactly. Scott Walker is the head of government in his state. Bolo Boffin Jul 2012 #4

Like the Internet, the Interstate highway system, and the fucking rocket that took folks to the moon alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #3

Thank you mazzarro Jul 2012 #21

you really believe that? now who is being naive? arely staircase Jul 2012 #117

Unfortunately... kentuck Jul 2012 #5

Imagine if there was a sane republican anywhere. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #6

If government can't do anything right, why does Walker want to run it? hay rick Jul 2012 #7

Republicans say government doesn't work. Then they get elected and prove it. zinnisking Jul 2012 #12

I always think of Walter Sobchik beating that muscle car with a tire iron Bolo Boffin Jul 2012 #20

He doesn't want to run it malaise Jul 2012 #24

Katrina part deux... one_voice Jul 2012 #8

If the government had been involved... targetpractice Jul 2012 #9

And Walker would have charged admission. rug Jul 2012 #10

Google is indeed our friend ChazII Jul 2012 #11

Battleships, Carriers, Destroyers? kwolf68 Jul 2012 #13

Scott Walker has no idea he is part of the government Angry Dragon Jul 2012 #14

Since it was never built anyway, SnohoDem Jul 2012 #15

+infinity! Roland99 Jul 2012 #46

If Walker hadn't had help from federal government his budget wouldn't have been balanced blm Jul 2012 #16

I've got bad news. It wasn't built. Marr Jul 2012 #17

Government took us to the fucking moon Quixote1818 Jul 2012 #18

+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2012 #28

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! nt ncgrits Jul 2012 #41

And if Walker was Noah, it'd have no animals on it: "No organizing!" nt Poll_Blind Jul 2012 #19

I believe the Ark was built. standingtall Jul 2012 #22

And if you can PROVE the ark was built, SnohoDem Jul 2012 #25

Not eight families, eight people. We are all the children of incest. DCKit Jul 2012 #29

Sorry! SnohoDem Jul 2012 #132

And please, don't forget Norway 2on2u Jul 2012 #30

Thank you for this! ncgrits Jul 2012 #44

You said alot standingtall Jul 2012 #48

Do you mind if I ask how old you are? n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #51

37 standingtall Jul 2012 #110

I admit I cherry-picked this, standingtall: Bertha Venation Jul 2012 #62

Do you believe "your god" destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah? morningfog Jul 2012 #73

Yes I believe god destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah standingtall Jul 2012 #82

I think you have your knowledge of evolution backwards auburngrad82 Jul 2012 #89

If you're not anti-science, consider the science of a flood that drowns the world: muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #97

Just because evidence hasn't been found standingtall Jul 2012 #119

But I mentioned evidence against it muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #131

So your god only believe in world-wide genocide as a one time thing? EOTE Jul 2012 #109

Your understanding of science and evolution... rexcat Jul 2012 #133

Enuma Elish - Gilgamesh and Utnapishtm Xyzse Jul 2012 #96

^^This^^ nt mr blur Jul 2012 #124

I'm surprised I have to state the obvious here Le Taz Hot Jul 2012 #26

Wasn't that the problem with W's assertion... KansDem Jul 2012 #57

Can you prove there's no Santa Clause? Capt. Obvious Jul 2012 #33

False equivalency standingtall Jul 2012 #55

My parents confessed to me that it was actually them dying for my sins. EOTE Jul 2012 #123

People making extraordinary claims need to provide proof. Lots of proof. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #37

What about Utnapishtim's ark? Bolo Boffin Jul 2012 #39

you forgot your sarcasm thingy Bandit Jul 2012 #45

A question was ask. I answered it. standingtall Jul 2012 #63

I'm sorry you feel I insulted you or your intelligence Bandit Jul 2012 #75

Biology doesn't agree, either. Occulus Jul 2012 #78

That level of incest does explain the intellectual capacity of Scott Walker, though. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2012 #114

Disgusting. Bertha Venation Jul 2012 #84

Who was sent to collect a Galapagos tortoise? lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #49

And where did he get the howler monkeys, jaguars, giant anteaters, The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2012 #116

Not to mention the platypus, emu, hifiguy Jul 2012 #118

That must have happened before... rexcat Jul 2012 #134

Enjoy your short stay, troll. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #50

Because I belive in Jesus standingtall Jul 2012 #64

no because you believe in a literal interpretation of the bible Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #66

How doyou feel about Scott Walker? morningfog Jul 2012 #69

Walker is scum standingtall Jul 2012 #120

Biblical literalist = almost certainly a wing-nut. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #76

That's your assumption standingtall Jul 2012 #92

No, that sounds like trying too hard. 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #126

Let us reason. hifiguy Jul 2012 #60

What a silly story to believe. Absolutely ridiculous. morningfog Jul 2012 #68

Do you believe everything written in the Old Testament literally? morningfog Jul 2012 #70

Actually no standingtall Jul 2012 #94

You are aware aren't you, that Exodus was propaganda, it never happened. Archae Jul 2012 #130

I'd dispute the sheepherders part Bolo Boffin Jul 2012 #136

And the world is flat NickB79 Jul 2012 #74

Mosaic law standingtall Jul 2012 #79

So that must have been when god was still in his rebel youth. cpwm17 Jul 2012 #93

Serious question deutsey Jul 2012 #81

Because he gave us dominion over the earth standingtall Jul 2012 #91

Thanks for the response deutsey Jul 2012 #98

You know what a bitch of a time Noah had getting two velociraptors to fuck! snooper2 Jul 2012 #83

I don't care if you flick your Bic and worship the flame Warpy Jul 2012 #87

101 Myths of the Bible FLyellowdog Jul 2012 #101

bwahahahahaha!!! frylock Jul 2012 #102

So me and you are related? Renew Deal Jul 2012 #106

Maybe 400,000th cousins or someting standingtall Jul 2012 #121

May I ask you a question? 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #125

And I'll continue to believe that the human race was crafted by a group of alien frat boys. EOTE Jul 2012 #107

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #113

I believe that Satan created the Ark story ... prove me wrong. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #129

If the government had built the ark, the unicorns would have been saved Capt. Obvious Jul 2012 #23

Um, that whole ark thing? Le Taz Hot Jul 2012 #27

genocidal fairy tale Capt. Obvious Jul 2012 #34

And if Jeeeeeeeeesus dispensed contraceptives Walker would never have been born. Vinca Jul 2012 #31

If Jor-El had needed government help to launch his rocket, eShirl Jul 2012 #32

If the R's see this they'll accuse Al Franken of being a Nazi sympathizer. Scuba Jul 2012 #40

Wasn't Noah's government God? Didn't He comission it? JHB Jul 2012 #35

Interstate highway system. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #36

No ark : no gnus dipsydoodle Jul 2012 #38

If government is so bad then why is Scott Walker Governor? lunatica Jul 2012 #42

no government no tweet n/t Enrique Jul 2012 #43

What a fucking dumb shithead Blue Owl Jul 2012 #47

If it had been built by the government, Scott Walker would sell it to cronies Blue Meany Jul 2012 #52

What about God's plan, Scott? moondust Jul 2012 #53

That boy is dumber than a sack of hammers. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #54

If I had relied on union labor, I'd never have mustered my army of unicorn-riding angels enki23 Jul 2012 #56

And if the government ohheckyeah Jul 2012 #58

Even when you think they can't get any dumber, hifiguy Jul 2012 #59

You're assuming he does use toilet paper. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2012 #112

God isn't the government? Moonwalk Jul 2012 #61

Imagine if Cinderella had been visited by her Senator instead of the fairy godmother. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #65

scott walker = jack ass trueblue2007 Jul 2012 #67

There was no Noah's Arc. Period. A remnant of a myth. skip fox Jul 2012 #71

If government had been involved... hughee99 Jul 2012 #72

And if Neil Armstrong had needed help from the government drm604 Jul 2012 #77

I see we think alike, but Coyotl Jul 2012 #86

Well it would almost certainly be a Republican pet project. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #80

Imagine if Neil had needed help from the government to get to the moon, he would have failed. Coyotl Jul 2012 #85

If George W. Bush had not had the help of government to fight his war in Iraq, he would have lost Coyotl Jul 2012 #88

I'm amazed at all these GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS telling us "Government can't do anything good" Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #90

If the republicans built the ark they would have denied the flood and then all drown LynneSin Jul 2012 #95

wow, devastating argument Enrique Jul 2012 #99

imagine if santa had needed help from the government to build those toys frylock Jul 2012 #100

And if god wasn't a genocidal asshole, there would be no need for an ark arcane1 Jul 2012 #103

If Noah had help from gov't, the ark would have had 2 of every weapon. Renew Deal Jul 2012 #104

If there had been Government Programs like FEMA eg, Noah would not have needed to build an Ark. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #105

That's really stupid, even for that guy. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2012 #108

Everyone knows God and Noah were Progressive Democrats Coyotl Jul 2012 #111

If government helped build the Ark, we'd still have unicorns, dinosaurs and who knows kiranon Jul 2012 #115

Well then let's just stop all those gov't. shipbuilding contracts! nolabear Jul 2012 #122

Republicans would have told the animals they were on their own. liberal N proud Jul 2012 #127

Myths defended with myths.. Ahh religion. tridim Jul 2012 #128

I'd like Walker to tell me this... jmowreader Jul 2012 #135

Mass murder fantasy by proxy gulliver Jul 2012 #137