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joshcryer

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43. Yeah? I wasn't wrong about Libya.

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 12:52 AM

Jan 2012

But you were.

I admit when I'm wrong and don't have a problem with people being wrong and admitting it.

I have a problem with people buying into right wing lies just like Greenwald believes Ron Paul is anti-crony-capitalism.

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Glenn Greenwald's political views are consistent [View all] Bonobo Dec 2011 OP

Did you know that Glenn Greenwald supported both the Afghan and Iraqi war? n/t Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #1

Actually I did not. Can you provide a link? nt Bonobo Dec 2011 #2

I added it to my original post. n/t Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #3

Thanks. My display on DU is all messed up for some reason. nt Bonobo Dec 2011 #4

It sounds as if he feels he was duped like many others. Bonobo Dec 2011 #6

To listen to his rhetoric today against the Iraqi and Afghan wars Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #7

So what is your reasoned defense for the Afghan War? nt Bonobo Dec 2011 #8

I really don't think I'm the subject of this thread. Bolo Boffin Dec 2011 #12

You seemed to be criticizing Greenwald for now opposing the Afghan War. Bonobo Jan 2012 #15

You seem intent on making this discussion about me. n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #19

No, I am merely making it about your statements. Bonobo Jan 2012 #28

If this was a thread about my politics and not Greenwald's, you might have a point. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #33

Yes and I asked you about your position vis a vis his "consistency". Bonobo Jan 2012 #37

Yes, you making this about me is when the "wheels came off the train." n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #41

And again, you duck and weave to avoid the question that you cannot answer. nt Bonobo Jan 2012 #46

Cannot answer? No. Will not answer because this thread is not about me. n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #49

The question you are not answering is quite obviously NOT about you. Bonobo Jan 2012 #50

It most certainly is about me. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #51

Actually your post was the distraction from my OP about domestic politics. Bonobo Jan 2012 #53

The sad thing is, is that their are NUMEROUS Liberal journalists who at the time very much supported FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #69

Next time someone paints me into a corner Puglover Jan 2012 #84

that's a stretch paulk Jan 2012 #16

"enthusiastic and satisfied" support of the Afghan war, as I said. n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #17

you may have said it paulk Jan 2012 #55

OK. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #56

how many years ago was this? paulk Jan 2012 #72

Obama is an enthusiastic supporter of the AFghan War still. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #66

Holy smokes! ProSense Dec 2011 #9

APALLING. joshcryer Dec 2011 #11

Like all the Democratic Presidential candidates who voted it? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #24

No, I didn't support their votes. None, nada. joshcryer Jan 2012 #32

Well, good for you. I admire consistency. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #34

I take TBF's position, I'll vote in case they're counting. joshcryer Jan 2012 #45

Lol, what utter nonsense. Now you're trying too hard. I had a feeling that you knew nothing sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #67

An inaccuracy in that hit piece on Greenwald. It WAS generally known that initially sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #18

I guess that's going to be rather subjective a measure. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #22

Right. Just because Greenwald pubished it in a book EFerrari Jan 2012 #35

Yes, I remember it being atop the New York Bestseller List for years Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #38

Yes, I know what the hit piece was about. Hitchens was a jerk. I'm sorry he died, but just because sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #68

You don't deny that Greenwald waited until Hitchens was dead to write Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #70

Well, I never wrote anything much about Ronald Reagan either, UNTIL he died and I saw the sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #73

Bullshit, everyone who voted for it and believed it were either doing so for ... joshcryer Jan 2012 #26

I agree! Everyone who voted for it was WRONG. And either too cowardly NOT to do so sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #30

Forgiving for who? joshcryer Jan 2012 #39

Not a hit piece but a fact. vaberella Jan 2012 #76

"Trust in the Bush admin"? The man is shit. vaberella Jan 2012 #75

"supported both the Afghan and Iraqi war?" bvar22 Jan 2012 #82

That's what I respect most about him. sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #5

you must have missed this tabatha Dec 2011 #10

Keep reading. He just "had a change of heart." joshcryer Dec 2011 #13

He actually did. Unlike Kerry and Edwards and Gephardt who discovered that while they had sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #21

I have no problem with having a change of heart. I have a problem with believing right wingers. joshcryer Jan 2012 #23

I have a problem with rightwingers too. What is your point? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #25

But it's OK to believe right wingers, particularly when it comes to war? joshcryer Jan 2012 #27

I'm not following you. What rightwinger are you talking about? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #31

Greenwald believed Bush. He said as much. joshcryer Jan 2012 #40

Then there are an awful lot of rightwingers in the Dem Party because they believed sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #57

Where did I say anyone who initially supported the war was a "rightwinger"? joshcryer Jan 2012 #58

Here is where you said it. Stop trying to be cute. Bonobo Jan 2012 #59

Yes, I said "I have a problem with believing right wingers." joshcryer Jan 2012 #60

OK, now I understand. I misinterpreted. Bonobo Jan 2012 #61

No worries, I should've said "I have a problem with people who believe right wingers." joshcryer Jan 2012 #62

It was remarkable to learn that Greenwald ever believed anything Bush said. Bonobo Jan 2012 #63

This is a very touchy issue for me, DU was 100% anti-Iraq. 100%. Anyone for it was either... joshcryer Jan 2012 #65

That is NOT a true statement. bvar22 Jan 2012 #83

I completely disagree. joshcryer Jan 2012 #86

Wait ProSense Jan 2012 #81

Let's stick to facts for a change, and not waste time on distractions. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #87

What ProSense Jan 2012 #89

The lesson is not to put anyone on a pedestal noise Jan 2012 #14

No, I did not miss it. I think YOU missed his point though. This was in his book and he explained sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #20

Well said. Failing to admit mistakes is worse than making them in the first place. Bonobo Jan 2012 #29

My head spins here sometimes lately Bonobo. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #36

Yes, exactly. I am still the same politically as I ever was but now I am not even on the radar. Bonobo Jan 2012 #42

And, you were wrong about Libya like Greenwald was wrong about Iraq. joshcryer Jan 2012 #44

Yeah? I wasn't wrong about Libya. joshcryer Jan 2012 #43

I was wrong about Libya? Bonobo Jan 2012 #47

Read some Pacificm as Pathology and understand where I come from. joshcryer Jan 2012 #48

"Pacifism as Pathology". LOL. Bonobo Jan 2012 #52

Eh. I'm not a super fan of Ward Churchill but he makes good points. joshcryer Jan 2012 #54

Churchill is a Vietnam veteran. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #71

I used to crap on him because I am anti-violence, however, over the years... joshcryer Jan 2012 #77

That's what started the trouble mythology Jan 2012 #91

Agree, I didn't buy into the neocon lies either. Cameron27 Jan 2012 #64

Greenwald had Fisk's reports, the reports from the UN inspectors, the knowledge that the UN was... joshcryer Jan 2012 #79

True. mmonk Jan 2012 #74

The war in Afghanistan.. sendero Jan 2012 #78

Excellent post woo me with science Jan 2012 #80

Apparently we are now on Greenwald Underground JoePhilly Jan 2012 #85

He's consistently full of shit. That's for certain. MjolnirTime Jan 2012 #88

And in that kind of blind inflexibility lies his failure frazzled Jan 2012 #90

Wow, glad to be the thread ender frazzled Jan 2012 #92

All on the front page of GD right now. Do you see the futility? DeathToTheOil Jan 2012 #93