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20. I don't know how many are left on line, but they are disappearing rapidly

Sun Oct 29, 2017, 06:51 AM

Oct 2017

The one in Belgium near the border with Aachen is scaring everyone, as it has one incident after another. Germany is giving one tax break after another to companies that work exclusively on renewables, and houses that install solar. A well-off friend of mine moved from the suburbs out to the country, and made sure there was enough land to make his residence self-sufficient in renewable energy with solar panels, which it now is. But bureaucrats will not stop being bureaucrats, and he gets a big tax break if the solar panels are in one position on his roof, but not if they're in another.

Once Merkel saw what happened in Fukushima, she didn't hesitate. She realized the potential catastrophe if such a thing happened in Germany, and started immediately on trying to prevent it. Very UN-European of her, actually.

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Germany generating so much windpower today that price for electricity will fall... below zero [View all] KelleyKramer Oct 2017 OP

Here I am in Northern Florida, wind blowing and sun shinning all day Stryst Oct 2017 #1

U.S. Drill baby drill and "clean coal" USA! USA! hibbing Oct 2017 #2

The iPad posting this reply runs completely off solar power. roamer65 Oct 2017 #3

Meanwhile the rest of the world advances with clean energy LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #4

Meanwhile in DC, our government is stalled by an excess of wind RainCaster Oct 2017 #5

Fukushima shadowmayor Oct 2017 #6

Money has a funny way of greasing the skids. Caliman73 Oct 2017 #28

No, Chernobyl was way worse. EX500rider Oct 2017 #40

You are correct ex-rider shadowmayor Oct 2017 #47

We have some wind turbines here in the San Francisco Bay Area in the Altamont Pass... iluvtennis Oct 2017 #7

Those ugly turbines littering the hillsides in the photo you posted are mostly dead now. hunter Oct 2017 #23

"Ugly", I'll just leave that there. nt iluvtennis Oct 2017 #24

"ugly" just like "dead" Eko Oct 2017 #35

Their are still thousands of dead 20th century wind turbines littering the hillsides of California. hunter Oct 2017 #38

How do you know they are dead? Eko Oct 2017 #41

Oh bother... hunter Oct 2017 #44

Thats interesting. Eko Oct 2017 #45

And from 2017. Eko Oct 2017 #46

Politically powerful people see the Altamont Pass wind turbines from the highway... hunter Oct 2017 #48

If this country was run properly not fooled Oct 2017 #8

You're right about that. If it doesn't mean ripping off the masses for huge profits, then forget it. YOHABLO Oct 2017 #12

Yep Cosmocat Oct 2017 #15

I looked at solar sarah FAILIN Oct 2017 #30

The government here should do not fooled Oct 2017 #31

Fukushima freaked all of Europe out. Merkel actually did something about it. DFW Oct 2017 #9

Isn't Germany down to 1 or 2 nuke plants left? KelleyKramer Oct 2017 #11

Still 8 left Ezior Oct 2017 #17

Thanks, that's amazing progress KelleyKramer Oct 2017 #19

I don't know how many are left on line, but they are disappearing rapidly DFW Oct 2017 #20

There's no way Germany can break it's dirty coal habit and remain a major industrial economy. hunter Oct 2017 #25

Deciding to phase out coal as a source for power plants WAS a rough choice. DFW Oct 2017 #32

Scrubbers were installed to control the smog. But the carbon dioxide remains. hunter Oct 2017 #34

Solar isn't irrational as long as it isn't overrated DFW Oct 2017 #37

All we get is a bunch of hot air world wide wally Oct 2017 #10

Speaking of Fukushima:Are millions of gallons of radio active waste still spilling into the Pacific? YOHABLO Oct 2017 #13

No, but they are talking about dumping it on purpose KelleyKramer Oct 2017 #14

And sometimes it even costs money to produce electricity... TomVilmer Oct 2017 #16

Battery farms. Once battery or solid state storage has developed enough, as Telsa is Fred Sanders Oct 2017 #21

meanwhile Duke energy onethatcares Oct 2017 #18

Why celebrate yet another major fault of wind energy? hunter Oct 2017 #22

dont bother responding to this person Eko Oct 2017 #36

Is the power company in Hawaii still blocking residential solar panels? Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #26

The Hawaii power company seems somewhat beholden to the same oil companies... hunter Oct 2017 #42

Thanks for the update. nt Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #43

Our private-enterprise electric utilities companies WILL NEVER LOWER CONSUMER COSTS, EVER!!! WinkyDink Oct 2017 #27

Hey, we were promised "electrical energy too cheap to meter" back in 1954. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2017 #29

As long as the Snackshack Oct 2017 #33

Every structure in this country has a roof of some sort and they all face the sun. Vinca Oct 2017 #39