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The Velveteen Ocelot

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23. Juveniles who have been abused often don't tell anyone for years,

Sun Oct 29, 2017, 11:22 PM

Oct 2017

if at all, because they are ashamed and think it's their fault. It's why statutes of limitations for sex abuse of minors tend to be very long - because they are afraid to say anything. This was also true of many of the abuse cases involving Catholic priests. Most of the plaintiffs in those cases were middle-aged men who had been abused decades previously and didn't come forward until they'd had years of therapy.

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Kevin Spacey is a pedo?? !! [View all] boston bean Oct 2017 OP

If that's true -- Damn! The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #1

I know, I love "House Of Cards". Initech Oct 2017 #8

If it's true, nobody is to blame but Spacey himself. It's not a plot. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #13

But 1986? Why is this guy just now coming forward? Initech Oct 2017 #21

Juveniles who have been abused often don't tell anyone for years, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #23

Yeah I get that. Initech Oct 2017 #43

Have you seen the news lately? IronLionZion Oct 2017 #29

Yes I've seen the news. Initech Oct 2017 #41

Because he's sick if this s**t MaryMagdaline Oct 2017 #36

What I don't get about this. Initech Oct 2017 #46

It's not over yet MaryMagdaline Oct 2017 #48

Nondiclusure agreements account for some of that... JHB Oct 2017 #83

Weinstein? metalbot Oct 2017 #99

No, not odd at all and with the "me too" movement he found support and courage to speak out. ATL Ebony Oct 2017 #85

A lot of males who have been abused have been speaking out too. There have been a lot of boys anneboleyn Oct 2017 #93

most allegations of sex abuse on both sides are made by people of the same political leanings JI7 Oct 2017 #15

If this is true - and we should take sex abuse accusations extremely seriously - Kevin Spacey InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #2

The number of allegations being leveled True Dough Oct 2017 #3

Remember that Trump and Bannon have a LOT of Hollywood connections... Rollo Oct 2017 #75

the people accusing them are mostly liberals JI7 Oct 2017 #76

Maybe... Rollo Oct 2017 #79

no, they really are liberal. just like the ones accusing o'reilly ailes etc are mostly conservative JI7 Oct 2017 #80

Another POS! Tatiana Oct 2017 #4

Lord help us! ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #5

Technically, no he is not. bluepen Oct 2017 #6

Waiting for someone to claim this distinction that means nothing as to how fucking disgusting this boston bean Oct 2017 #7

Did someone downplay the seriousness? bluepen Oct 2017 #9

Does Chickenhawk work? nt DURHAM D Oct 2017 #10

Like pressing harder on remote buttons bluepen Oct 2017 #11

Huh? nt DURHAM D Oct 2017 #12

Non sequitur for non sequitur. bluepen Oct 2017 #16

There is a difference LeftInTX Oct 2017 #14

What the hell do yoj think I give a shit? Pedo is sex with a child or attraction to children. boston bean Oct 2017 #17

Photos of Rapp I saw from that time seemed even younger than 14 stevenleser Oct 2017 #44

Children small for their age are often cast. alphafemale Oct 2017 #98

!!! Not a subject to make fine distinctions, unless you have to as a legal defence atty. Sate laws Alice11111 Oct 2017 #72

I think emotion will overrule facts in this thread. bluepen Oct 2017 #19

Statutory rape, or sexual assault toward a minor. Not pedophilia. uppityperson Oct 2017 #37

!!! Alice11111 Oct 2017 #69

But if true he is a rapist. uppityperson Oct 2017 #38

Agree. bluepen Oct 2017 #40

unreal BainsBane Oct 2017 #18

I heard rumors years ago that Hayduke Bomgarte Oct 2017 #20

No one cares if he's gay. BainsBane Oct 2017 #24

That fact contributes to corroborating the allegation. bluepen Oct 2017 #26

Careful. Just because someone is gay is no corroboration of pedophilia, not any more than that... Rollo Oct 2017 #30

Not at all what I said. bluepen Oct 2017 #32

Then how does being gay corroborate a charge of pederasty? Rollo Oct 2017 #47

It doesnt corroborate it and I didnt say it did. bluepen Oct 2017 #50

Again, you're wrong. His gayness, if he is, does NOT lend credence that he would engage in pederasty Rollo Oct 2017 #53

Okay. Differing opinions. No big deal. bluepen Oct 2017 #54

Homophobia is a big deal, and it seems to me it runs conrary to the spirit of this forum. Rollo Oct 2017 #56

Irrational fear isnt a factor. bluepen Oct 2017 #58

Homophobia isn't just a differing opinion. It's just wrong. Rollo Oct 2017 #77

I think the difficulty you are having arises with bluepen Oct 2017 #86

How disingenous... Rollo Oct 2017 #87

Not at all. You are misinterpreting. bluepen Oct 2017 #89

FYI Rollo Oct 2017 #59

You dont have to resort to a baseless claim bluepen Oct 2017 #63

The victim is also gay MaryMagdaline Oct 2017 #64

Agree. bluepen Oct 2017 #65

It has nothing to w/him being gay. However Spacey did apologize for "drunken behavior" anneboleyn Oct 2017 #94

Like hell it does. That's like just being a straight male contributes to allegations of... brush Oct 2017 #67

Exactly... Rollo Oct 2017 #78

By those males, not all. brush Oct 2017 #90

Yup Hayduke Bomgarte Oct 2017 #31

Id like to hear Spaceys side of the story BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #22

I believe most of the posts included the caveat "if it's true." The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #25

Yeah, the part about the alleged act being very similar bluepen Oct 2017 #27

Yeah, me too. milestogo Oct 2017 #28

He'll get to tell his side BainsBane Oct 2017 #33

He chose not to deny it MaryMagdaline Oct 2017 #39

Spacey statement, posted on twitter 15 mins ago: emulatorloo Oct 2017 #49

He just made a statement not denying MaryMagdaline Oct 2017 #52

With you, BannonsLiver. HERE: elleng Oct 2017 #62

You can read what he posted on twitter. He does not deny it and apologizes for "drunken behavior" anneboleyn Oct 2017 #96

Gutted if True. brettdale Oct 2017 #34

Spacey is a rapist Not Ruth Oct 2017 #35

I came across a story about Spacey a couple of years ago Bradshaw3 Oct 2017 #42

You're absolutely right. Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #68

There have been rumors ellie Oct 2017 #45

No, but don't let facts get in your way. elleng Oct 2017 #51

Are you calling the victims liars? BainsBane Oct 2017 #57

Kevin Spacey statement posted on Twitter: elleng Oct 2017 #61

looks like he is confirming the allegation JI7 Oct 2017 #74

Only he was drunk and not responsible BainsBane Oct 2017 #91

Another one I won't watch again LittleBlue Oct 2017 #55

Thankfully, he'll never be speaker of the house tenderfoot Oct 2017 #60

At 14-years-old that's sick but not pedophilia. Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #66

Sex Offender. MFM008 Oct 2017 #71

Yes, especially with that age difference. Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #81

Is that the Polanski defense? Not Ruth Oct 2017 #82

I have no idea what the Polanski defense might be; Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #84

That 14 year old was alone at a party with grown ups, and was not assaulted. lindysalsagal Oct 2017 #92

when I was attacked at age 7 MFM008 Oct 2017 #70

Through the years his name has popped up dewsgirl Oct 2017 #73

The scientific analysis... gay males are no more likely to abuse children than straight males...! Rollo Oct 2017 #88

I'm in no way defending him, but to be precise, 14 is an Ephebophile. OliverQ Oct 2017 #95

Still illegal. I love Spacey and this hurts, honestly. But I don't care about the linguistic issue anneboleyn Oct 2017 #97