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12. The indictments against Manafort and Gates are only one part of the day's news

Reply to marylandblue (Original post)

Mon Oct 30, 2017, 11:56 AM

Oct 2017

The bigger deal, in my estimation, is what we learned today about George Papadopoulos having pled guilty to making false statements, which were specifically about not just contact with Russians, but with contact with Russians explicitly to help the Trump campaign. The way this reads to me is that they've already flipped Papadopoulos, having rolled him on charges of making false statements on matters establishing collusion.

What I expect is that we will eventually see his testimony and admissions used at some point in the future to pressure Manafort.
We haven't seen the end of this, not by a long shot.

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Why there is nothing campaign related in the indictment [View all] marylandblue Oct 2017 OP

Let's also remember that Manafort was in that June with Russians meeting w/his handy phone. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #1

RUSSIA: The most important part of Paul Manaforts indictment thats gone unnoticed .... L. Coyote Oct 2017 #8

I bet Mueller is just holding 'em cards. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #11

Smart strategy Lotusflower70 Oct 2017 #2

This indicates Manafort was under surveillance before going to work for Trump. Bad news for Donnie. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #6

Yep Lotusflower70 Oct 2017 #7

Well, the FBI has been on this since summer '16, at least... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #14

That's a great point because... PearliePoo2 Oct 2017 #3

Have you paid attention Break time Oct 2017 #4

Because these charges had to be brought now due to statute of limitations. L. Coyote Oct 2017 #5

there will be no light sentence for cooperation. uncle ray Oct 2017 #9

Mueller needs witnesses who can say Trump knew marylandblue Oct 2017 #10

yes, but those witnesses will not include Paul Manafort. uncle ray Oct 2017 #13

Still they will want Manafort to talk marylandblue Oct 2017 #16

i doubt he has info big enough that he can share to get his ass out of this sling. uncle ray Oct 2017 #18

You can't cut a deal until they charge you with a crime marylandblue Oct 2017 #19

The indictments against Manafort and Gates are only one part of the day's news better Oct 2017 #12

I agree this is bigger marylandblue Oct 2017 #17

Papadopoulos plead GUILTY to collusion with Russians re eMails offered to Don Jr. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #15